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Mini NASes marry NVMe to Intel's efficient chip

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Re: Mini NASes marry NVMe to Intel's efficient chip

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NVMe NAS is completely and totally pointless with such crap connectivity. What in the WORLD is preventing these systems from getting at least 10gbps interfaces? I have been waiting for years and years and years and years and the only thing on the market for small systems with good networking is weird stuff that you have to email Qotom to order direct from China and _ONE_ system from Minisforum. I'm beginning to think…

Consider the terramaster f8 ssd

Re: Mini NASes marry NVMe to Intel's efficient chip

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NVMe NAS is completely and totally pointless with such crap connectivity. What in the WORLD is preventing these systems from getting at least 10gbps interfaces? I have been waiting for years and years and years and years and the only thing on the market for small systems with good networking is weird stuff that you have to email Qotom to order direct from China and _ONE_ system from Minisforum. I'm beginning to think…

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Re: Mini NASes marry NVMe to Intel's efficient chip

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good question. I imagine for the silence and low power usage without needing huge amounts of storage. That said, I own an n100 dual 3.5 bay + m.2 mini PC that can function as a NAS or as anything and I think it's pretty neat for the price.

This sounds exactly like what I'm looking. Care to share the brand&model?

AOOSTAR R1

Re: Mini NASes marry NVMe to Intel's efficient chip

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post #90

NVMe NAS is completely and totally pointless with such crap connectivity. What in the WORLD is preventing these systems from getting at least 10gbps interfaces? I have been waiting for years and years and years and years and the only thing on the market for small systems with good networking is weird stuff that you have to email Qotom to order direct from China and _ONE_ system from Minisforum. I'm beginning to think…

> What in the WORLD is preventing these systems from getting at least 10gbps interfaces?

They definitely exist, two examples with 10 GbE being the QNAP TBS-h574TX and the Asustor Flashstor 12 Pro FS6712X.

Re: Mini NASes marry NVMe to Intel's efficient chip

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Is it possible (and easy) to make a NAS with harddrives for storage and an SSD for cache? I don't have any data that I use daily or even weekly, so I don't want the drives spinning needlessly 24/7, and I think an SSD cache would stop having to spin them up most of the time. For instance, most reads from a media NAS will probably be biased towards both newly written files, and sequentially (next episode). This is a us…

https://github.com/trapexit/mergerfs/blob/master/mkdocs/docs...

I do this. One mergerfs mount with an ssd and three hdds made to look like one disk. Mergerfs is set to write to the ssd if it’s not full, and read from the ssd first.

A chron job moves out the oldest files on the ssd once per night to the hdds (via a second mergerfs mount without the ssd) if the ssd is getting full.

I have a fourth hdd that uses snap raid to protect the ssd and other hdds.

Re: Mini NASes marry NVMe to Intel's efficient chip

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I am currently running a 8 4TB NVMe NAS via OpenZFS on TrueNAS Linux. It is good but my box is quite large. I made this via a standard AMD motherboard with both built-in NVMe slots as well as a bunch of expansion PCEi cards. It is very fast. I was thinking of replacing it with a Asustor FLASHSTOR 12, much more compact form factor and it fits up to 12 NVMes. I will miss TrueNAS though, but it would be so much smaller.

You can install truenas Linux on the flashstor12. It has no GPU or video out, but I installed a m.2 GPU to attach a HDMI monitor

Re: Mini NASes marry NVMe to Intel's efficient chip

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i want a NAS i can puf 4tb nvme’s in and a 12tb hdd running backup every night. with ability to shove a 50gbps sfp card in it so i can truly have a detached storage solution.

The lack of highspeed networking on any small system is completely and totally insane. I have come to hate 2.5gbps for the hard stall it has caused on consumer networking with such a passion that it is difficult to convey. You ship a system with USB5 on the front and your networking offering is 3.5 orders of magnitude slower? What good is the cloud if you have to drink it through a straw?

Re: Mini NASes marry NVMe to Intel's efficient chip

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While it may be tempting to go "mini" and NVMe, for a normal use case I think this is hardly cost effective. You give up so much by using an all in mini device... No Upgrades, no ECC, harder cooling, less I/O. I have had a Proxmox Server with a used Fujitsu D3417 and 64gb ecc for roughly 5 years now, paid 350 bucks for the whole thing and upgraded the storage once from 1tb to 2tb. It draws 12-14W in normal day use an…

these little boxes are perfect for my home My use case is a backup server for my macs and cold storage for movies. 6x2Tb drives will give me a 9Tb raid-5 for $809 ($100 each for the drives, $209 for the nas). Very quiet so I can have it in my living room plugged into my TV. I have no room for a big noisy server.

While I get your point about size, I'd not use RAID-5 for my personal homelab. I'd also say that 6x2TB drives are not the optimal solution for low power consumption. You're also missing out server quality BIOS, Design/Stability/x64 and remote management. However, not bad.

While my Server is quite big compared to a "mini" device, it's silent. No CPU Fan only 120mm case fans spinning around 500rpm, maybe 900rpm on load - hardly noticable. I've also a completely passive backup solution with a Streacom FC5, but I don't really trust it for the chipsets, so I also installed a low rpm 120mm fan.

How did you fit 6 drives in a "mini" case? Using Asus Flashstor or beelink?

Re: Mini NASes marry NVMe to Intel's efficient chip

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Intel N150 is the first consumer Atom [1] CPU (in 15 years!) to include TXT/DRTM for measured system launch with owner-managed keys. At every system boot, this can confirm that immutable components (anything from BIOS+config to the kernel to immutable partitions) have the expected binary hash/tree. TXT/DRTM can enable AEM (Anti Evil Maid) with Qubes, SystemGuard with Windows IoT and hopefully future support from othe…

Where are you seeing devices without Bootguard fused? I'd be very curious to get my hands on some of those...

Re: Mini NASes marry NVMe to Intel's efficient chip

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Is it possible (and easy) to make a NAS with harddrives for storage and an SSD for cache? I don't have any data that I use daily or even weekly, so I don't want the drives spinning needlessly 24/7, and I think an SSD cache would stop having to spin them up most of the time. For instance, most reads from a media NAS will probably be biased towards both newly written files, and sequentially (next episode). This is a us…

https://github.com/trapexit/mergerfs/blob/master/mkdocs/docs... I do this. One mergerfs mount with an ssd and three hdds made to look like one disk. Mergerfs is set to write to the ssd if it’s not full, and read from the ssd first. A chron job moves out the oldest files on the ssd once per night to the hdds (via a second mergerfs mount without the ssd) if the ssd is getting full. I have a fourth hdd that uses snap ra…

Also, https://github.com/bexem/PlexCache which moves files between disks based on their state in a Plex DB
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