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Re: My open source project was relicensed by a YC company [license updated]

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Post by Thorrez »

weird-eye-issue wrote: post #54
stitched2gethr wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I made an OSS tool to help you cheat on your taxes, screw your business partner, or ensure your ex wife cannot see the children. Someone stole the source and is backed by a major VC firm. Is the thought different at all or exactly the same? Just raising the question.

Google search and the internet can help you with all of those. Maybe we should ban the internet.

So can electricity.

The difference is that the tool "cheating daddy" was specifically created for the purpose of cheating. Electricity, the Internet, and Google were not created for that purpose.

Cheating daddy's tagline is "If you're gonna cheat, cheat better".

Not that I'm in any way defending Cluely/Glass. Cluely's X bio is "cheat (noun) – an advantage so good it's unfair; rewrites the balance between effort and outcome."

Disclosure: I work at Google by my thoughts are my own.

Re: My open source project was relicensed by a YC company [license updated]

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Post by danielpkl »

Hi everyone, this is Daniel from the Pickle team. Glass is a new open source project from us that we plan to build on and improve. We built several original features for it like live summaries, real-time STT Transcript and one-click "Ask" from summary that we're very excited about. However in initially building it we included code from a GPL-licensed project that we incorrectly attributed as Apache. This was incorrect and sloppy work on our end. We made a quick fix and are working right now to do a proper fix that addresses the issues fully and cleanly. We are sorry to the original author of the project, Soham (CheatingDaddy), and thank him for pointing this out. We are also sorry to the open source community for messing up here. Thanks everyone for caring about this.

Re: My open source project was relicensed by a YC company [license updated]

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Post by icar »

danielpkl wrote: post #92

Hi everyone, this is Daniel from the Pickle team. Glass is a new open source project from us that we plan to build on and improve. We built several original features for it like live summaries, real-time STT Transcript and one-click "Ask" from summary that we're very excited about. However in initially building it we included code from a GPL-licensed project that we incorrectly attributed as Apache. This was incorrec…

Nice try

Re: My open source project was relicensed by a YC company [license updated]

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Post by sebmellen »

This being on page 2 with 247 upvotes in the three hour time period this post has been up is surprising to me. I wouldn't be surprised if @dang is suppressing it (but I'd also be happy to hear that it's not being suppressed).

It's pretty spineless for the Pickle team to come out and pretend they mistakenly re-licensed GPL code. Hilarious.

> in initially building it we included code from a GPL-licensed project that we incorrectly attributed as Apache

How can you write a sentence like that in good faith?

Re: My open source project was relicensed by a YC company [license updated]

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Post by sebmellen »

danielpkl wrote: post #92

Hi everyone, this is Daniel from the Pickle team. Glass is a new open source project from us that we plan to build on and improve. We built several original features for it like live summaries, real-time STT Transcript and one-click "Ask" from summary that we're very excited about. However in initially building it we included code from a GPL-licensed project that we incorrectly attributed as Apache. This was incorrec…

The correct approach is to license your code as GPL v3 with Soham as the author. It's a simple fix.

Re: My open source project was relicensed by a YC company [license updated]

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Post by sebmellen »

nativeit wrote: post #67
sohzm wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

its not the best name tbh, i just made it as a meme but people take the name seriously and that hurts the case ive posted the evidence in twitter thread link

Yeah, once someone posted a link I could read, I saw that. Bummer, looks like they ripped it off and sounds like they're currently doing the usual backpedal. Sorry your project got the wrong kind of attention in this way, I also (eventually) read into your tone while reading through your repo, and I understand much of it is tongue-in-cheek. It softened my position a bit. Hope you enjoy better luck in your future ende…

The appropriate thing would be to revise your initial comment.

Re: My open source project was relicensed by a YC company [license updated]

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Post by stitched2gethr »

eddythompson80 wrote: post #83
stitched2gethr wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I made an OSS tool to help you cheat on your taxes, screw your business partner, or ensure your ex wife cannot see the children. Someone stole the source and is backed by a major VC firm. Is the thought different at all or exactly the same? Just raising the question.

It's exactly the same of course? Why would it be different?

Maybe it's not.

Re: My open source project was relicensed by a YC company [license updated]

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Post by Lionga »

sebmellen wrote: post #94

This being on page 2 with 247 upvotes in the three hour time period this post has been up is surprising to me. I wouldn't be surprised if @dang is suppressing it (but I'd also be happy to hear that it's not being suppressed). It's pretty spineless for the Pickle team to come out and pretend they mistakenly re-licensed GPL code. Hilarious. > in initially building it we included code from a GPL-licensed project that we…

YC doing typical YC things

Re: My open source project was relicensed by a YC company [license updated]

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Post by Incipient »

VoidWhisperer wrote: post #14

In a general sense, open source theft is bad, obviously. I have trouble feeling bad for this specific case though, given that it is a tool for cheating in interviews and tests.

A new product with four wheels that is used to transport people from A to B is a amazing new development! Some new 4 wheeled death machine to drive through crowds of people is an detriment to society.

The original product actually sounds kinda cool, but selling it as a cheating aid is incredibly low-value, and we'd be better off without it.

Re: My open source project was relicensed by a YC company [license updated]

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Post by tomhow »

sebmellen wrote: post #94

This being on page 2 with 247 upvotes in the three hour time period this post has been up is surprising to me. I wouldn't be surprised if @dang is suppressing it (but I'd also be happy to hear that it's not being suppressed). It's pretty spineless for the Pickle team to come out and pretend they mistakenly re-licensed GPL code. Hilarious. > in initially building it we included code from a GPL-licensed project that we…

The first rule of HN moderation is that we moderate (i.e., intervene) less if a story reflects negatively on a YC company or YC itself.

This principle goes right back to pg days, and was the first thing he taught dang [1].

That said, it doesn't mean we avoid moderation at all and it doesn't mean the guidelines all go out the window.

Different factors influence the story's rank and visibility on the front page: upvotes, flags, the flamewar detector, and settings to turn these penalties on/off. I'm actively watching the thread to keep it on the front page, as per the rule.

That said, the guidelines ask us to avoid fulmination and assume good faith. Whilst it's fair enough to criticize and question a company when they do something like this, we can also be adult enough to look the evidence before us and recognize that this was most likely a dumb mistake that they've moved quickly to correct.

[1] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

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