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TikTok is being flooded with racist AI videos generated by Google's Veo 3

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Re: TikTok is being flooded with racist AI videos generated by Google's Veo 3

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Post by moritzwarhier »

eurleif wrote: post #90
moritzwarhier wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The website you link (disgusting people) has apparently changed. > For Content Thieves (Warning) > If you are currently using Body Cam Declassified content without [...] > You are in violation of copyright law and will be subject to legal action [...] > We aggressively pursue legal remedies against content theft, including statutory damages of up to $150,000 per infringement under U.S. [...] > An additional administr…

I don't think it's changed. Note that my first quote, claiming it's real bodycam footage, is from the description they wrote for the YouTube channel, not from the site. The second quote, saying it's not actual bodycam footage, is the one from the site, and that's still there.

I'm sorry (head -> table), I simply overlooked this part of your comment:

> But then if you go to their site, https://bodycamdeclassified.com/, which is focused on threatening people who steal their IP

I was on the go and not reading properly, sorry

Re: TikTok is being flooded with racist AI videos generated by Google's Veo 3

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Post by RockRobotRock »

fakedang wrote: post #85
RockRobotRock wrote: post #38

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These videos are insane, and the lack of "this is fake" comments are disheartening.

The top comment in that link GP shared was literally 'Impersonating a police officer is a crime.'

their other videos are better at riding the line of believable, much less comments calling it out unless you dig into the replies.

Re: TikTok is being flooded with racist AI videos generated by Google's Veo 3

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Post by HK-NC »

CharlesW wrote: post #18
drdaeman wrote: post #9

> nothing drives engagement on social media like anger and drama There. It isn’t even a “real” racism, it’s more of a flamebait, where the more outrageous and deranged a take is, the more likely it would captivate attention and possibly even provoke a reaction. Most likely they primarily wanted to earn some buck from viewer engagement, and didn’t care about the ethics of it. Maybe they also had the racist agendas, ma…

> It isn’t even a “real” racism… Generating and distributing racist materials is racist regardless of the intent, even if the person "doesn't mean it". Simple thought experiment: If the content was CSAM, would you still excuse the perpetrators as victims of perversely incentivized attention economics?

I don't think child porn and tired racist stereotypes are the same. Even content showing murder would be ignored by most and none of us, I assume, are pro murder. I dont assume everyone that uses a sexy female thumbnail is a gooner, just farming goons. I think the original poster has a fair point, having seen the videos, they lack the usual cherrypicked accuracy of content made by genuinely racist creators and instead go for.. Watermelon. My friends are about as bothered by watermelon as an irishman is about cartoon leprechauns, but I'm not in the USA so perhaps its a cultural thing.

Re: TikTok is being flooded with racist AI videos generated by Google's Veo 3

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Post by RandomBacon »

tumsfestival wrote: post #89
RandomBacon wrote: post #82

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I missed that wave, do you know where they went? I'm getting tired of people letting politics seep into the discussions on this website.

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No

Re: TikTok is being flooded with racist AI videos generated by Google's Veo 3

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Post by tomhow »

ChrisNorstrom wrote: post #79
tomhow wrote: post #70

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Once again you're using HN for ideological battle, which is against the guidelines. We've asked you to refrain from doing this before. Please remember to avoid this. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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Yes, I too have often lamented that all the independent thinkers who think like me decided to leave at around the same time :)

Re: TikTok is being flooded with racist AI videos generated by Google's Veo 3

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Post by jrflowers »

drdaeman wrote: post #72
jrflowers wrote: post #64

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> you don’t have to be racist (as in believing in racist ideas) to be a racist troll (propagate racist ideas) Exactly. Racism has nothing to do with what people say or do, it’s a sort of vibe, so really there is no way of telling if anything or anyone is Real Racist versus fake racist. It is important to point this out b

I’m a bit confused, is that possible you think racism is binary? I recognize you jest, but not sure I get the idea, and I sincerely hope you don’t do it pointlessly. If you refuse to distinguish between someone who genuinely believes in concept of a race, or postulates an inherent supremacy of some particular set of biological and/or sociocultural traits, and someone who merely talks edgy shit they heard somewhere an…

I showed the videos to my friend and he keeps saying stuff like “Seems like it’s racists making and sharing the racist videos” and “So if a person posts a bunch of racist garbage and then post ‘I’m not racist in my heart’ then the second post is obviously true?”

I keep trying to explain that no, it’s not real racism because if you can imagine that it’s not real, it must not be real but then he says “Who made you the arbiter of racism?” and “What purpose on God’s Green Earth does it serve anyone, in any context, to chime in unprompted that you choose to sort racism into real and fake piles? Like what do you get out of that?”

Anyway I explained that it’s fake racism because it’s just somebody that wants attention and he said “racists can want attention too” and “seems like you’re just doing gymnastics to invent excuses for people online that you don’t even know why are you doing that” so I don’t know what to tell him. I don’t think we’ll see eye to eye on this because he incorrectly defines racism as a “real phenomenon” that “affects real people” and is “perpetuated by people’s actions”, whereas I know that what he’s describing is fake racism, because real racism is a little thing people feel in their hearts.

Seems like anybody could plainly see that fake racism is when people say or do real racist things in the world and real racism is intangible, not really strictly “real”, but the guy’s a kook so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Re: TikTok is being flooded with racist AI videos generated by Google's Veo 3

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Post by drdaeman »

jrflowers wrote: post #96
drdaeman wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m a bit confused, is that possible you think racism is binary? I recognize you jest, but not sure I get the idea, and I sincerely hope you don’t do it pointlessly. If you refuse to distinguish between someone who genuinely believes in concept of a race, or postulates an inherent supremacy of some particular set of biological and/or sociocultural traits, and someone who merely talks edgy shit they heard somewhere an…

I showed the videos to my friend and he keeps saying stuff like “Seems like it’s racists making and sharing the racist videos” and “So if a person posts a bunch of racist garbage and then post ‘I’m not racist in my heart’ then the second post is obviously true?” I keep trying to explain that no, it’s not real racism because if you can imagine that it’s not real, it must not be real but then he says “Who made you the…

Uhh, I see that really made a very poor word choice when I wrote “‘real’ racism”. My bad, words are hard.

Given that you’ve chose “fake” as the antonym, I think I can see where we differ, and that I misused the term “‘real’”. In my mind I would’ve picked something like “less intentionally”. I’m not even sure if I can imagine what a fake racism could possibly be like: racism is an idea, and I don’t really get what fakeness for ideas means.

I will try to remember and be more careful with the word “real” in the future. Appreciate your comments.

And, yes, that was real racism, of course - in the way you’ve used the expression. Or rather, there’s no such thing that “not real racism”, and “not ‘real’ racism” was a confusingly bad phrase.

Re: TikTok is being flooded with racist AI videos generated by Google's Veo 3

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Post by bashinator »

deadbabe wrote: post #39
bashinator wrote: post #24

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Has every generation also seen the rise of massively-multiuser automated personalized propaganda engines?

TV was one hell of a propaganda engine.

Not personalized. Imagine TV that can be exactly tuned to every individual viewers' taste.
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