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Re: Gene therapy restored hearing in deaf patients

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How challenging is it for a person who has been deaf for let's say 20 years to suddenly regain hearing?

If they've been deaf from infancy, basically the entire hearing center of the brain is non-existent. So they'd be hearing sound, but processing it into meaningful content would not happen, if at all. So basically, its like having a cacophany of sound that you can't filter and process...

As for others, one thing hearing people, particularly monolingual hearing people, don't understand very well is that hearing != understanding. Just because you hear a sound doesn't automatically equate to it having meaning. The default for many people is to just SPEAK LOUDER and slower, which does not help in the vast majority of encounters

Re: Gene therapy restored hearing in deaf patients

#93
post #20

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Sorry, but they are differently abled. Their brains and perceptions are different from people who can hear. You are assuming that those differences are all negatives. They do not believe that to be the case. Many people here self-diagnose as Asperger's. Can you not see why they would not want a "cure"? Being an extrovert objectively gives you great advantages in (most) societies. As an introverted parent, I would def…

See - I don't get this. I've heard people mention it about the deaf community, but it just doesn't make sense to me - perhaps I'm missing something. I have congenital hearing loss in both ears, and wear hearing aids. I don't know ASL (at least not well enough to use), as I am more or less able to function with hearing aids, with the usual caveats - background noise, group settings, still quite reliant on lip-reading…

to be honest, you;'d have the same issues with that said magic wand and normalcy, because hearing aids do amplify sound and allow you to hear everythig.

You'd have the same issue, if not more, with background noise, group settings and context acquisition

Processing input is the hard part, if you're already having issues, that isn't going to go away

Re: Gene therapy restored hearing in deaf patients

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post #41

How would one find out if they have this type of hearing loss? I have moderate to severe hearing loss in both ears since birth and there’s never been an attempt that I’m aware of to diagnose the cause beyond a standard inner ear examination.

Whole Genome Sequencing is affordable now. I’d suggest a 20x hifi long read from broad clinical labs for $1200 or so. Use opencravet to dig into the results. They just posted a webinar for personal analysis https://wse.zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_-VvYJ8FKRcGaKCQtLFrU... Franklin by genoox is a slicker and possibly more approachable product depending on your interface preferences. Genetic research — due to the number…

Thank you for this! My wife recently got a pathology report back reporting a rare variant of a rare cancer and I’m trying to get back into genomics (an almost masters degree) now to see if there’s anything my computering can do to aid. I’ve contacted Broad Clinical Labs.

Re: Gene therapy restored hearing in deaf patients

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This is a super interesting comment, thank you. I am certainly guilty of believing the deaf experience is inferior to the hearing experience - but not because I think ASL is lesser than spoken languages or deficient as a communication channel. It's because deaf people don't hear music. I know people can dance to the beat and often distinguish songs by vibration patterns, but that is surely not equivalent to the emoti…

> On the other hand, from my brief number of ASL lessons (about a years worth taken as an adult in my mid 20s) the facial expressiveness inherent to ASL gives it something hearing people don't get in normal conversation. But to me that's a pretty small benefit compared to the things a deaf person is missing. I don't know ASL, so can you elaborate on this? Aren't facial expressions just as important for non-deaf peopl…

Facial expressions were mandatory in ASL, at least according to my teacher. The best analogy I can think of is of a tonal language, where raised eyebrows, a somewhat astonished look, or a frown with a furrowed brow are the tones.

Re: Gene therapy restored hearing in deaf patients

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Anyone from the deaf community that can tell us how these kind of news are received? I wonder how this compares to animosity towards coclear implants by a subsection of the community

Controversial in the same way cochlear implants are. Many deaf/Deaf parents want children who hear. And I think absent the cultural consideration, almost all would want children who hear. But you can't ignore the cultural consideration. If you are deaf, and have a deaf child, curing that child's deafness means they will move away from you later in life. It's a kind of alienation even when the child remains bicultural…

i see an opportunity cost.

i recently realized that my neighborhood soccer teams arent constantly yelling at eachother about where they are, and that stopping to look for who to pass to is costing us games. i started yelling on their behalf a couple games back and we started shooting and scoring.

somebody who wants to remain deaf, couldnt play soccer at the same level as hearing people because they couldnt hear that information, even though their foot to ball skills might be amazing, and thats a travesty for soccer.

im sure theres lots of things we tend to not think of where hearing is a gigantic advantage, that the deaf arent able to use, and were missing out on their related skills because of it

Re: Gene therapy restored hearing in deaf patients

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post #78
post #42

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> I can respect resisting pressure to be part of the hearing world, but there are certainly ways in which deafness impacts one's safety and opportunities. I agree, but that's not a result of me being deaf, it's a result of the hearing world just blindly assuming everyone can hear these things. People screw up hearing sirens or "on your left" or whatever ALL the time, even if they are hearing (distracted, headphones,…

I'm all for high quality captions, and turn them on occasionally when dialog is hard to hear (or in another language, usually prefer to dubbing). I also don't doubt that they improve comprehension. But on average I find them distracting from the visuals and prefer to have them off by default.

Obviously it should be a preference one can toggle, regardless of the default setting. I think they would get a lot better if the default was on instead of off.

TikTok generally has captions, usually burned into the video clip, you can't turn them on/off.

Re: Gene therapy restored hearing in deaf patients

#98
post #28

You know, whenever treatment for autism comes up, we get a lot of comments heavily suggesting curing autism is basically eugenics. Why is it that some things are seen as a disability we should try to fix in our children, and others - which are in many ways just as debilitating - seen as some kind of beautiful part of humanity?

Some part of the deaf community would see the treatment in this article similarly to eugenics; erasing deaf culture.
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