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Re: My home servers are not a homelab

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Post by esperent » Mon, Jun 30, 2025, 10:03 AM UTC

Calwestjobs wrote: post #85

juahan wrote: post #68

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Well in Finland there is nothing like this for sure. You cannot do 230V electricity work regardless of what you call the rooms. I would really like to hear more about this in other European countries.

100% there are temporary wiring / temporary installation exemptions in civilized parts of europe.

> in civilized parts of europe

Ah, lovely. Racism.

Please speak clearly, which parts of Europe do you consider to be civilized, and which parts uncivilized?

Re: My home servers are not a homelab

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Post by vhodges » Mon, Jun 30, 2025, 11:55 AM UTC

aspenmayer wrote: post #22

vhodges wrote: post #15

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Sorry, did I get it wrong? I only ever see it as onprem ;).

I think they were making a kind of play on words on your misspelling. It is short for on premises .

No, worries, I knew, I couldn't remember if it had the s or not... I'll have to look up the etymology.

Re: My home servers are not a homelab

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Post by Calwestjobs » Mon, Jun 30, 2025, 12:14 PM UTC

esperent wrote: post #91

Calwestjobs wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

100% there are temporary wiring / temporary installation exemptions in civilized parts of europe.

> in civilized parts of europe Ah, lovely. Racism. Please speak clearly, which parts of Europe do you consider to be civilized, and which parts uncivilized?

stop spreading hate.

edit: this is racism. - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEowCqd4zug

Re: My home servers are not a homelab

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Post by tehlike » Mon, Jun 30, 2025, 12:57 PM UTC

petesergeant wrote: post #26

tehlike wrote: post #18

It's pedantic - it's what's known as a homelab. I have one at home, too, running pricetracker.wtf, among other things. It has a 56G network switch i will never be able to saturate, more compute than i'll probably need. Looking to add 24 disk JBOD - i will never probably saturate or fill either.

Is it really a lab if you can't break it without stopping things working that you'd like to continue working?

I restart my server and break prod sometimes.

Re: My home servers are not a homelab

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Post by tehlike » Mon, Jun 30, 2025, 12:58 PM UTC

juahan wrote: post #71

tehlike wrote: post #18

It's pedantic - it's what's known as a homelab. I have one at home, too, running pricetracker.wtf, among other things. It has a 56G network switch i will never be able to saturate, more compute than i'll probably need. Looking to add 24 disk JBOD - i will never probably saturate or fill either.

Went to the site pricetracker.wtf, tried one example search and Cloudflare blocked me. Before that it gave a few 500 errors. Cloudflare Ray ID: 957b4f2ee9b40b9c

What country are you from, and what url did you try?

Email in profile. Please reach out

Re: My home servers are not a homelab

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Post by Calwestjobs » Mon, Jun 30, 2025, 1:17 PM UTC

Calwestjobs wrote: post #86

mvdtnz wrote: post #61

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Use your words.

he says he is not watching news, so he does not care, or he has schizophrenia and he cares but not cares, or he is passive aggressive. so which one you need me to address?

if you have need to downvote . please tell me what exactly im not understanding to make me a better person.

Re: My home servers are not a homelab

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Post by burnt-resistor » Mon, Jun 30, 2025, 2:32 PM UTC

dheera wrote: post #75

burnt-resistor wrote: post #72

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I played that game in my 20's spending $8k/month on rent, but only for a short time. That's crazy rent. There are probably much cheaper areas nearby. There are plenty of areas where very nice homes are $200-400k. Except you're paying a landlord money that could be going towards property that you own, and that equity is portable. You won't have any wealth when you become very old and cannot work. You and your family w…

> You won't have any wealth when you become very old and cannot work. You and your family will end up with nothing. What do you propose? Borrow money and buy a house for millions that I can't afford? Sounds like a faster way to go broke. Also, we all saw how the LA fires went. You'd better have $6 million in cash if you want a $3 million house. $3 million for the house, $3 million for a backup house when the first on…

Been There, Done That, Bought The T-Shirt. There's cheaper housing in the East Bay right across the bridge.

Tax accountant/financial planner? A good one might be able to find a minimization strategy.

Re: My home servers are not a homelab

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Post by jauntywundrkind » Mon, Jun 30, 2025, 4:16 PM UTC

nradk wrote: post #36

udev4096 wrote: post #20

A perfect example of creating problems out of nowhere. Does OP have nothing productive to say other than dunking on the term? Since when does "homelab" resemble to anything concrete? Edit: Looking at your "de-googling" post, which resembles a lot of privacy theatre, this just seems like nothing more than an attention grab

Well, I have nothing productive to say; overthinking nomenclature is probably even counterproductive. But I was actually quite curious to know if there are people like me who self host but don't use their setups primarily for experimentation or learning, and how they refer to their setup.. :)

I want to say thanks for the post. I hadn't considered this before, but now it makes me really wish we had a different term in common use.

I definitely tend to think of networking labs, of things meant for short term use & experimentation, but many of us really enjoy & rely on these systems serving our homes, our lives, reliably, consistently. I've heard some defenses of labs, but rarely is a lab doing the same reliable work again and again and again at a lab; labs feel like forerunners, not established bedrock.

Some day I really hope home servers cross the chasm, become more and more accepted & common. I know there's so many countervailing reasons, conveniences that keep this unlikely, but still I hope some folks find reason & find it not hard to back off from big cloud, to find advantage in running things ourselves.

There's the well known home-ops repo & folks. https://github.com/onedr0p/home-ops among techies I've seen some lightbulbs go off by calling the system a home-cloud. I'm curious what other nomenclature people have seen used, and how they feel it's been received?

Re: My home servers are not a homelab

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Post by p_ing » Mon, Jun 30, 2025, 4:20 PM UTC

vhodges wrote: post #92

aspenmayer wrote: post #22

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I think they were making a kind of play on words on your misspelling. It is short for on premises .

No, worries, I knew, I couldn't remember if it had the s or not... I'll have to look up the etymology.

Just a tease :-)

On-premises means in a physical location, i.e. data center (or garage) in this context.

On premise would mean based on an argument/inference.

Re: My home servers are not a homelab

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Post by vhodges » Mon, Jun 30, 2025, 11:04 PM UTC

p_ing wrote: post #99

vhodges wrote: post #92

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No, worries, I knew, I couldn't remember if it had the s or not... I'll have to look up the etymology.

Just a tease :-) On-premises means in a physical location, i.e. data center (or garage) in this context. On premise would mean based on an argument/inference.

No offence taken :).

Just today I saw a post (on Reddit) 'Mauling' over whether to get a Framework 16 or not (I assume that English was not their native tongue). Me? I would have just let the bear have it ;-p