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More on Apple's Trust-Eroding 'F1 the Movie' Wallet Ad

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Re: More on Apple's Trust-Eroding 'F1 the Movie' Wallet Ad

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The entire reason Apple made devices that were a level above competitors is because the design wasn’t just the aesthetic. Ive was chief designer and so obviously had a key impact.

How do you know Ive had a key impact? Do you know it or read somewhere online?

“How do you know that had impact”.

Do you hear yourself?

Re: More on Apple's Trust-Eroding 'F1 the Movie' Wallet Ad

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post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you know Ive had a key impact? Do you know it or read somewhere online?

“How do you know that had impact”. Do you hear yourself?

Then all OP is saying key impact person had key impact. Doesn't add any substance to discussion.

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post #44

They are also marketing “nearby” coffee shops in the Home Screen stack widget which is pretty invasive, I’m surprised not to hear about it

They're not. The Maps widget shows you nearby businesses. You can remove the widget.

My maps widget randomly took me to some BS Apple movie scene location with a bunch of movie branding right in the maps UI. There was nothing nearby about it. It was like two continents away from me.

Re: More on Apple's Trust-Eroding 'F1 the Movie' Wallet Ad

#94
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Did they learn nothing from giving everyone a free U2 album that nobody wanted, and the backlash from that?

I think this is a lot worse than the U2 thing. Operating systems bundle free stuff all the time. Even the Windows 95 CD had a Weezer music video on it. The U2 album wasn’t spammy it didn’t interrupt people, it was in an appropriate place, and it was easily removed. Even if you didn’t want it, it’s reasonable to not consider it a problem. This was outright spammy. It was trying to sell people something. It was in a se…

This damn U2 album still appears in my smart playlists in Apple Music from time to time - it is insane that I can’t delete it completely so many years later.

Re: More on Apple's Trust-Eroding 'F1 the Movie' Wallet Ad

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The problem isn't sending an Ad to Wallet. It is the fact that Apple openly attack Ads, condemns Ads, talk about privacy as fundamental human rights, and then have targeted Ads, in a place / software / services where no body expected it to appear. And not everybody has the Ad, so by HN / Reddit / Internet definition that Ad is targeted. The thing I used to like about Apple, even if you disagree with some of its decis…

> It is the fact that Apple openly attack Ads, condemns Ads What? No they don’t. I wish. Where did you get that idea? Apple loves ads. They do a ton of them and sell them to you. You can’t do an App Store search without seeing an ad right at the top, and the bottom, and the sides, and under your pillow. It’s absolutely littered with them. What Apple rails against is the tracking and invasion of privacy. Which inciden…

The App Store Search and iCloud Ads are relatively recent thing. The focus on tracking and invasion of privacy is also a refined version of it. Their whole PR campaign from 2017 to 2020 against ads. ( And it was more targeting Facebook Ads without saying it. Which Apple plan to destroy ) Somewhere between 2019 - 2022 They literally have to come out and said to say they are not against ads but only against tracking because the whole Ad industry was furious so they have calm things down.

Here is another angle. If Apple could successfully destroy the In App Ads industry, which they earn nothing from, and force those value into subscription, who will benefit most? Remember Apple tried iAds and earn a percentage of it but failed.

People should at least read PG's Submarine [1] to understand how modern PR and media works. Once you have that understanding the lens of reading anything about Apple becomes a little different.

[1] https://www.paulgraham.com/submarine.html

Re: More on Apple's Trust-Eroding 'F1 the Movie' Wallet Ad

#96

I'm sure at some marketing meeting at Google, a VP racing for pole posiiton has wanted to green-light the idea of putting advertisements in their Wallet app. With any luck this backlash against Apple is so significant that a red flag is waved so ferociously that Google will never blast an advertisement out to their Google Wallet users. As the article outlines, I am sure that due to the sheer number of people who use…

While Google may or may not refrain from putting ads in their wallet app due to this incident, the aggressive ways that they use to get me to use the wallet app have been off putting enough. Every now and then, there is a full-screen popup on my phone that wants to onboard me into the wallet app. The only options I have are "yes" or "later". Clearly a company that operates on the principle of "If the user doesn't wan…

To be fair, the “Yes, Maybe Later” pattern can be seen throughout Silicon Valley. Tech companies, by and large, cannot accept “No” from users.

Re: More on Apple's Trust-Eroding 'F1 the Movie' Wallet Ad

#97
post #6

I feel vindicated for when I said that the moment Apple's line stops growing, they'll resort to monetizing their users like the rest of big-tech to increase their shareholder returns, and everyone here was like "Nooo, my sweet innocent publicly traded trillion dollar corporation would never betray me like that" . Give it a few more years love, now they're boiling the frog.

What do you mean start monetizing ? I get adds for their Apple Arcade trial on top of my iOS settings main screen. I really hate Apple - but what's stopping me from moving out of the ecosystem is that nobody else builds shit that works and is on same level. The M Pro series processor is only touchable by that one AMD chip you can't get anywhere. Windows is garbage and Linux is a part time job. Android is even worse i…

As shitty as it is, Chromeos doesnt seem to have a lot bloatware to me.

Re: More on Apple's Trust-Eroding 'F1 the Movie' Wallet Ad

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post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“How do you know that had impact”. Do you hear yourself?

Then all OP is saying key impact person had key impact. Doesn't add any substance to discussion.

> How do you know that? Because of the title?

Yes

Re: More on Apple's Trust-Eroding 'F1 the Movie' Wallet Ad

#100
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I didn’t see any ads and nobody I know did. This may be a feature in ios26 (the next version in beta) that got leaked out to older versions? Ie a bug) Ios26 specifically enables promotions in wallet which is viewed as a feature that can be enabled/disabled

Probably depends on where you live, or some other thing apple knows about you.
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