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Literally four commands that can be copypasted. https://docs.docker.com/engine/install/fedora/#install-using...
Look at Debian
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Discord Is Threatening to Shutdown BotGhost
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Discord has a monopoly on access to its users, and so does not need to concern themselves with making it attractive to build there: the users are the draw, not the developer-friendliness of the platform. BotGhost should seek anti-monopoly enforcement; having EU users file the appropriate EU claims to appeal for Discord to be subjected to the DMA would be far more a threat to Discord’s monopoly than user support ticke…
Wait, doesn't every company have a monopoly on access to its users? Are we all monopolies?
No? LinkedIn lost a lawsuit about prohibiting third parties tools from accessing its site, Matrix has strong interop, Elite Dangerous offers OAuth API for sign-in and player data download, and so on. There are others but that’s sixty seconds worth of thinking about it.
Mastodon metastasized the user store but each site is still a tiny centralized user store. That’s how user stores work. Doesn’t mean they’re automatically monopolistic.
Discord’s taking the Reddit-Apollo approach to forcing them offline — half-assed conversations for months followed by an abrupt fuck-you moment with little recourse — which given Discord’s free of charge growth mechanism, means that — just like Reddit — they’re likely going to shutdown anything by that’s providing a valuable service to a significant fraction of their users, either to Sherlock and charge money for it, or simply to terminate what they view as an obstruction.
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#94Repeat after me and frame this. Never build your main business on somebody else's platform. Always assume that you will get shutdown / rugged when you do so.
> Never build your main business on somebody else's platform.
Are there any (profitable) phone apps that are not build on top of the app/play store?
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#95Kind of lame to put competitors on blast.
That wasn't the point of that. I think that's fairly obvious.
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#96I've often thought about the amount of data that these bot services must have access to (they could log millions of private channels), data thats silo'd away from search engines/indexers and could be pretty valuable to sell to someone training an AI model, or doing other things. A while back there was a service called 'Spy Pet' that ran hundreds of discord bots selling access to searchable data logs. I wonder if disc…
Some of them are absolutely up to dodgy stuff, they have access to countless private chats in servers where the users/admins are unaware messages are being sent to a third party. I wouldn’t be surprised if some of these bots are ran by state actors.
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You can already do that. People who want to do that aren't using BotGhost.
I was under the impression that writing a third party client was against TOS, and don't you have to write a client to get your bot to interact with the server?
No. Discord has an official and formalized bot API.
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#98There are lots of details about the technology, license agreements, service history, comparable platforms, and whatnot, which all form reasonable support for botghost. None of that matters in the slightest. They're dealing with an indifferent, capricious, unaccountable company. And trying to do it without enough leverage to even get a response. It seems like it's about to end the way it was always going to.
yup, agreed- worth going over the non tl;dr (sufficient to say the tl;dr misses some good juice, but thats what the page in full is for). i was sorta curious on the policy changes over time, since botghost has been around since '18. all i can say is good luck to botgost histories of policies-ish: - from the tl;dr (they also explain #4 as well in the non-tl;dr): > Discord issued a breach notice to BotGhost, claiming t…
It's also funny how selective-enforcement the discord TOS and dev policies are -- they turn a blind eye if not even encourage third party/modified first party clients "because retro" / "haha discord on windows 95 funny" (and even encourage it in some cases), yet those modified clients are explicitly banned in the TOS.
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You can already do that. People who want to do that aren't using BotGhost.
I was under the impression that writing a third party client was against TOS, and don't you have to write a client to get your bot to interact with the server?
Well, you can do that or use the bot API, the one Discord just told BotGhost to stop using.
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#100> A recent security breach on our platform brought BotGhost to Discord’s attention. The breach in question is documented here: https://youtube.com/watch?v=lUiLBBab1RY I don’t think there’s a text write-up, but tl;dw a combination of missing input sanitization and no-code UI trickery made it possible to leak other users’ bot tokens, and despite patching the exploit pretty quickly on exposure, BotGhost’s developer trie…
The video is linked in the article, amongst the response, timeline and further fixed exploits.
But it is correct that the article does not reiterate the technical details of the exploit.