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Re: The Zed Debugger Is Here

#91

Post by atonse »

mort96 wrote: post #72
laserbeam wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Zed was the first editor that tempted me into using AI features. It felt solid in general and AI feels mostly like autocomplete in other editors (in terms of how much it's in your face). There's definitely a place for AI models and agents in code editors, and Zed makes me feel like it's not built around them, which is great! Zed feel like "Come to us, we are making a good fast editor that also has AI." while competit…

I'm genuinely happy it works for you. I just don't want AI in my text editor, even if you're happy with it.

I suspect you’ll be an extreme minority.

I won’t go near a code editor anymore without AI integrated deeply.

Re: The Zed Debugger Is Here

#92

Post by [deleted] »

laserbeam wrote: post #32

I'm very happy to see work on the debugger. This is the main feature preventing me from switching full time to zed. Unfortunately, "here" is not accurate. Not having a watch window, a stack trace view, and no mention of data breakpoints in the announcement still keeps the "beta" tag. I know those features will arrive eventually, but what is described is definitely not sufficient for 97% of my debugging sessions. I wo…

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Re: The Zed Debugger Is Here

#93

Post by mort96 »

atonse wrote: post #91
mort96 wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm genuinely happy it works for you. I just don't want AI in my text editor, even if you're happy with it.

I suspect you’ll be an extreme minority. I won’t go near a code editor anymore without AI integrated deeply.

I suspect I'm not the only one experiencing "AI fatigue" as every single piece of software grows more and more useless "AI" features I don't want and which get in the way of doing what I actually want.

Re: The Zed Debugger Is Here

#94

Post by 90s_dev »

For some reason I've found myself wanting a "lighter VS Code" lateley, which is ironic considering I used VS Code for the past 10 years because it is so lightweight. So I've wanted to try out Zed, but it's just ... weird to go back to a closed source editor, especially one that's so focused on imitating copilot, which seems like an odd feature to shift most focus on.

Re: The Zed Debugger Is Here

#95

Post by no_wizard »

drcongo wrote: post #89
no_wizard wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Zed reminds of the days when Atom was big. It was a good time, but it always left me wondering how long it would last as it leaned heavily on community support for nearly everything useful outside a few packages Such a situation makes me worry about it keeping up if popularity wanes. With JetBrains for example at least I know that paying for the editor it will keep getting proper updates and support even if it isn’t…

You can pay for Zed too. I am.

Paying for zed isn’t the same as paying for extensions to be well maintained. They’re not all in house

Re: The Zed Debugger Is Here

#96

Post by lovedaddy »

mort96 wrote: post #93
atonse wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I suspect you’ll be an extreme minority. I won’t go near a code editor anymore without AI integrated deeply.

I suspect I'm not the only one experiencing "AI fatigue" as every single piece of software grows more and more useless "AI" features I don't want and which get in the way of doing what I actually want.

Yep, I was on mailing list etc. Unsubscribed when they did the AI announcement. Its not for me.

Re: The Zed Debugger Is Here

#97

Post by trostaft »

90s_dev wrote: post #94

For some reason I've found myself wanting a "lighter VS Code" lateley, which is ironic considering I used VS Code for the past 10 years because it is so lightweight. So I've wanted to try out Zed, but it's just ... weird to go back to a closed source editor, especially one that's so focused on imitating copilot, which seems like an odd feature to shift most focus on.

Am I missing someone, or didn't they go open source last year?

https://zed.dev/blog/zed-is-now-open-source

Re: The Zed Debugger Is Here

#99

Post by dakiol »

atonse wrote: post #91
mort96 wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm genuinely happy it works for you. I just don't want AI in my text editor, even if you're happy with it.

I suspect you’ll be an extreme minority. I won’t go near a code editor anymore without AI integrated deeply.

And I suspect you are an extreme minority. Among senior and staff engineers I barely see them leaving behind emacs, vim and jetbrains… none of them with ai plug-ins.

Re: The Zed Debugger Is Here

#100

Post by arandomusername »

mort96 wrote: post #72
laserbeam wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Zed was the first editor that tempted me into using AI features. It felt solid in general and AI feels mostly like autocomplete in other editors (in terms of how much it's in your face). There's definitely a place for AI models and agents in code editors, and Zed makes me feel like it's not built around them, which is great! Zed feel like "Come to us, we are making a good fast editor that also has AI." while competit…

I'm genuinely happy it works for you. I just don't want AI in my text editor, even if you're happy with it.

Then don't use it? It's completely optional and works perfectly fine without AI
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