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Andrej Karpathy: Software in the era of AI [video]

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Re: Andrej Karpathy: Software in the era of AI [video]

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Post by belter »

Painful to watch. The new tech generation deserves better than hyped presentations from tech evangelists.

This reminds me of the Three Amigos and Grady Booch evangelizing the future of software while ignoring the terrible output from Rational Software and the Unified Process.

At least we got acknowledgment that self-driving remains unsolved: https://youtu.be/LCEmiRjPEtQ?t=1622

And Waymo still requires extensive human intervention. Given Tesla's robotaxi timeline, this should crash their stock valuation...but likely won't.

You can't discuss "vibe coding" without addressing security implications of the produced artifacts, or the fact that you're building on potentially stolen code, books, and copyrighted training data.

And what exactly is Software 3.0? It was mentioned early then lost in discussions about making content "easier for agents."

Re: Andrej Karpathy: Software in the era of AI [video]

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Post by shakna »

tshaddox wrote: post #41
anon7000 wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Very advanced machine learning models are used in current self driving cars. It all depends what the model is trying to accomplish. I have a hard time seeing a generalist prompt-based generative model ever beating a model specifically designed to drive cars. The models are just designed for different, specific purposes

I could see it being the case that driving is a fairly general problem, and this models intentionally designed to be general end up doing better than models designed with the misconception that you need a very particular set of driving-specific capabilities.

Driving is not a general problem, though. Its a contextual landscape of fast-based reactions and predictions. Both are required, and done regularly by the human element. The exact nature of every reaction, and every prediction, change vastly within the context window.

You need image processing just as much as you need scenario management, and they're orthoganol to each other, as one example.

If you want a general transport system... We do have that. It's called rail. (And can and has been automated.)

Re: Andrej Karpathy: Software in the era of AI [video]

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Post by shakna »

alightsoul wrote: post #89
flumpcakes wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure this makes sense as a question. Registers are 'controlled' by running code for a given state. An AI can write code that changes registers, as all code does in operation. An AI can't directly 'control registers' in any other way, just as you or I can't.

I would like to make an AI agent that directly interfaces with a processor by setting bits in a processor register, thus eliminating the need for even assembly code or any kind of code. The only software you would ever need would be the AI.

That's called a JIT compiler. And ignoring how bad an idea blending those two... It wouldn't be that difficult a task.

The hardest parts of a jit is the safety aspect. And AI already violates most of that.

Re: Andrej Karpathy: Software in the era of AI [video]

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Post by moralestapia »

dang wrote: post #81
moralestapia wrote: post #63

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" Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something. " " Don't be snarky. " https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Wait ... but this is true.

Maybe I missed a source but I assumed it was somehow common knowledge.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Tesla_Autopilot_cras...

Re: Andrej Karpathy: Software in the era of AI [video]

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Post by alightsoul »

shakna wrote: post #93
alightsoul wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would like to make an AI agent that directly interfaces with a processor by setting bits in a processor register, thus eliminating the need for even assembly code or any kind of code. The only software you would ever need would be the AI.

That's called a JIT compiler. And ignoring how bad an idea blending those two... It wouldn't be that difficult a task. The hardest parts of a jit is the safety aspect. And AI already violates most of that.

The safety part will probably be either solved or a non-issue or ignored. Similarly to how GPT3 was often seen as dangerous before ChatGPT was released. Some people who have only ever vibe coded are finding jobs today, ignoring safety entirely and lacking a notion of it or what it means. They just copy paste output from ChatGPT or an agentic IDE. To me it's JIT already with extra steps. Or they have pivoted their software engineers to vibe coding most of the time and don't even touch code anymore doing JIT with extra steps again.

Re: Andrej Karpathy: Software in the era of AI [video]

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Post by hackernewds »

karpathy wrote: post #57
hgl wrote: post #51

It’s fascinating to think about what true GUI for LLM could be like. It immediately makes me think a LLM that can generate a customized GUI for the topic at hand where you can interact with in a non-linear way.

Fun demo of an early idea was posted by Oriol just yesterday :) https://x.com/OriolVinyalsML/status/1935005985070084197

it's impressive but it seems like a crappier UX? that none of the patterns can really be memorized

Re: Andrej Karpathy: Software in the era of AI [video]

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Post by wiseowise »

pryelluw wrote: post #15
pyman wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"We're not building Iron Man robots. We're building Iron Man suits"

Funny thing is that in more than one of the iron man movies the suits end up being bad robots. Even the ai iron man made shows up to ruin the day in the avengers movie. So it’s a little in the nose that they’d try to pitch it this way.

That’s looking too much into this. It’s just an obvious plot twist to justify making another movie, nothing else.

Re: Andrej Karpathy: Software in the era of AI [video]

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Post by abhaynayar »

alightsoul wrote: post #79

why does vibe coding still involve any code at all? why can't an AI directly control the registers of a computer processor and graphics card, controlling a computer directly? why can't it draw on the screen directly, connected directly to the rows and columns of an LCD screen? what if an AI agent was implemented in hardware, with a processor for AI, a normal computer processor for logic, and a processor that correlat…

Nice try, AI.

Re: Andrej Karpathy: Software in the era of AI [video]

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Post by alightsoul »

birn559 wrote: post #87
alightsoul wrote: post #79

why does vibe coding still involve any code at all? why can't an AI directly control the registers of a computer processor and graphics card, controlling a computer directly? why can't it draw on the screen directly, connected directly to the rows and columns of an LCD screen? what if an AI agent was implemented in hardware, with a processor for AI, a normal computer processor for logic, and a processor that correlat…

Because any precise description of what the computer is supposed to do is already code as we know it. AI can fill in the gaps between natural language and programming by guessing and because you don't always care about the "how" only about the "what". The more you care about the "how" you have to become more precise in your language to reduce the guess work of the AI to the point that your input to the AI is already…

With vibe coding, I am under the impression that the only thing that matters for vibe coders is whether the output is good enough in the moment to fullfill a desire. For companies going AI first that's how it seems to be done. I see people in other places and those people have lost interest in the "how"
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