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Fujifilm X half: Is it the perfect family camera?

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Re: Fujifilm X half: Is it the perfect family camera?

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Nitpick, technically they are CMOS, not CCD sensors ;) A modern CCD camera would be neat though

What do you prefer about CCD? Note where I'm coming from, not a photographer but a user of scientific image sensors.

Nothing of technical merit haha. It’s a bit like vinyl vs CD for me, the analog component is cool. I also like the idea of swappable ADCs, not that any camera has actually done that.

Re: Fujifilm X half: Is it the perfect family camera?

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Hmmm...the main (48 mp) camera sensor on the iPhone 15 Pro is about 10 x 7.5mm and has optical image stabilization. The 16 mp camera sensor on the Pixpro FZ55 is 6.17 x 4.55 mm and has no optical image stabilization. Maybe you just like the "look" from the Kodak more?

Bear in mind that sensor size in megapixels can be full of shit in terms of image quality. Cramming so many pixels into a tiny sensor such as that of a smartphone camera obligates a tiny size, resulting in poor-quality light capture and thus worse images in several ways. Hence the heavy use of reprocessing tricks in phones. On the other hand, the much larger pixels in a camera with an ostensibly smaller number of meg…

You overlooked that I listed the actual sensor sizes above! The iPhone's sensor is almost 3 times the area of the Kodak's. In general, small inexpensive consumer cameras use small sensors to keep the price low and to make it easier to add a large (5x) optical zoom in a small package. (Larger sensor = larger lens).

Re: Fujifilm X half: Is it the perfect family camera?

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Bear in mind that sensor size in megapixels can be full of shit in terms of image quality. Cramming so many pixels into a tiny sensor such as that of a smartphone camera obligates a tiny size, resulting in poor-quality light capture and thus worse images in several ways. Hence the heavy use of reprocessing tricks in phones. On the other hand, the much larger pixels in a camera with an ostensibly smaller number of meg…

You overlooked that I listed the actual sensor sizes above! The iPhone's sensor is almost 3 times the area of the Kodak's. In general, small inexpensive consumer cameras use small sensors to keep the price low and to make it easier to add a large (5x) optical zoom in a small package. (Larger sensor = larger lens).

You're right and I should have elaborated a bit more. I was referring more generally to camera sensors vs phone sensors, in this comparison, it applies less, but im still willing to bet that the lens and the individual pixels in the kodak contribute.

Re: Fujifilm X half: Is it the perfect family camera?

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This picks apart image quality from an iPhone 15 Pro Max regarding noise and usable dynamic range: https://youtu.be/bSm3LXNF7pI?feature=shared&t=1360 For anything more than basic software-processed output and utility snaps or selfies, this high-end phone loses pretty terribly to an average hybrid consumer camera.

Absolutely. We have an iPhone 15 Pro Max, a Kodak Pixpro FZ55, and a Panasonic G9 II + Panasonic Leica 12-60. The iPhone can't even hope to touch the cheap Kodak, much less the actual mirrorless.

That's if you don't factor in the shitty ergonomics of an iPhone used as a camera compared to an actual camera.

I've got an Instax Mini Evo, so I believe the guy.

Re: Fujifilm X half: Is it the perfect family camera?

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He should try some of the new ass end mirrorless cameras that are designed to be cameras and not fashion accessories. That might scare him off his Leica and this turd.

Leica is obviously social signalling. He gets to let us know he REALLY cares about photography. Photography is ultimately subjective anyway, if he feels a 10k camera worth it that's cool. IMO if your new wait for a sale or buy someone else's failed ambitions off eBay. I'm no pro but plenty of very capable cameras can be had under 1000$. The lenses are the expensive parts

> Leica is obviously social signalling.

I used to think that as well until I got one of their lenses for m43. It's a niche market which Fuji also captured quite well.

Re: Fujifilm X half: Is it the perfect family camera?

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Everyone here keeps touting an old phone, and I have to heatedly disagree. But a Kodak Pixpro FZ55 or FZ45. Brand new for $130 or less, beats even the best smartphones, and are Japan's top selling cameras for a reason.

I disagree as well.

One of those instant print cameras (and a limited budget) is probably best for teaching people to see, which is the core skill in photography. The pain of having to pay for refills is a major part of that learning experience.

Re: Fujifilm X half: Is it the perfect family camera?

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This picks apart image quality from an iPhone 15 Pro Max regarding noise and usable dynamic range: https://youtu.be/bSm3LXNF7pI?feature=shared&t=1360 For anything more than basic software-processed output and utility snaps or selfies, this high-end phone loses pretty terribly to an average hybrid consumer camera.

Absolutely. We have an iPhone 15 Pro Max, a Kodak Pixpro FZ55, and a Panasonic G9 II + Panasonic Leica 12-60. The iPhone can't even hope to touch the cheap Kodak, much less the actual mirrorless.

Glad there is sanity on HN. Try say this anywhere else you get attacked by Apple Fan boys.

And partly that is Apple to blame here. For their PR and marketing.

Re: Fujifilm X half: Is it the perfect family camera?

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Absolutely. We have an iPhone 15 Pro Max, a Kodak Pixpro FZ55, and a Panasonic G9 II + Panasonic Leica 12-60. The iPhone can't even hope to touch the cheap Kodak, much less the actual mirrorless.

Glad there is sanity on HN. Try say this anywhere else you get attacked by Apple Fan boys. And partly that is Apple to blame here. For their PR and marketing.

Arguably, the divide between real and pretend marketing photo making capabilities is less with Apple than with some other companies: https://www.theverge.com/2023/3/13/23637401/samsung-fake-moo...

Re: Fujifilm X half: Is it the perfect family camera?

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Nitpick, technically they are CMOS, not CCD sensors ;) A modern CCD camera would be neat though

What do you prefer about CCD? Note where I'm coming from, not a photographer but a user of scientific image sensors.

Personally I think an updated camcorder would be incredible. CCD with global shutter and in a pocketable format with modern stabilization, a video analog to the rx100. Way too niche though.
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