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Re: Seedance 1.0

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I look forward to a day when capabilities like this are trivial and boring to the average person. When my phone (locally) will be able to generate a fully voice acted 24 episode series anime on a whim for a meme with my group chat. It's astounding what we can do now, but will be completely ignorable before we know it, which is equally wild.

Who is going to spend time watching those episodes if content is so easy to make? Everyone will be busy watching their own generated content.

AI is going to watching those. AI watches much faster than humans.

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Literally nobody will give a fuck about a 24 episode series that exists because you spent a few seconds writing a prompt. AI doesn’t increase the value of content, it makes it meaningless by destroying scarcity. Tea. Earl Grey. Hot.

Ironically I think it might, by serving as a synthetic generator to learn to better understand artistic values for those who need it. We wouldn't know what is ever so slightly wrong about replicator Earl Grey, without trying it for a while. A lot of people right now claim that they cannot tell apart AI output from human art, while many of them seem to grow rather agitated and stressed after repeated exposure. I bet t…

someone's slop is someone else's gold or something.

everyone likes their own slop, hopefully

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> Doesn't matter one bit, just like mp3 and torrents didn't stop digital music. mp3 and torrents are storage and distributions mechanisms, not production ones. This is an inappropriate analogy.

It's entirely appropriate. Those were the first digital distribution routes. As much as the RIAA hated digital, they eventually caved.

RIAA hating digital and finally caving on distribution is totally different than all of the artists getting replaced by genAI. It's just not the same no matter how much you keep trying to push that square peg into a round hole.

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The future is something like the TikTok algorithm, but generated on the fly. As you scroll, it learns what you like and generates more videos.

With enough context fed into the model of what you react to, the content will be so mesmerizing that you won't be able to look away This is chilling and also seems inevitable long term

The only winning move is not to play. Just don't use stupid apps. Problem solved.

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The future is something like the TikTok algorithm, but generated on the fly. As you scroll, it learns what you like and generates more videos.

That's the near future. Look farther down the line and it's netflix. Keep scrolling and it generates entire movies and shows based on what you like. Probably before that though we'll see AI movies pre-generated before we see them generated on the fly during scrolling.

I don't doubt that we will be able to make a content machine. Honestly, we had that on tiktok before generative AI. But I feel like this kind of misses the point of art. The idea of art for me is on some level experiencing someone else's intention and connecting with others based on that. Generative models have no intention or experience so I am uninterested in what they have to say even if it is technically well executed.

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post #84

I look forward to a day when capabilities like this are trivial and boring to the average person. When my phone (locally) will be able to generate a fully voice acted 24 episode series anime on a whim for a meme with my group chat. It's astounding what we can do now, but will be completely ignorable before we know it, which is equally wild.

Literally nobody will give a fuck about a 24 episode series that exists because you spent a few seconds writing a prompt. AI doesn’t increase the value of content, it makes it meaningless by destroying scarcity. Tea. Earl Grey. Hot.

Mainly just pulling from how my friends use it now, for the fun of it. We have sent each other silly generated videos of stuff we did or talked about. Kind of like how we used up compute, storage, and bandwidth to send memes and funny videos. If it were the 80s we would spent proportional cost to share a cat picture perhaps, but look at what we did with the bleeding edge even then. Turned the computers into game machines, shared things, wasted time. This is just an extension of that idea. Everything cutting edge ends up getting used for silly things.

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I look forward to a day when capabilities like this are trivial and boring to the average person. When my phone (locally) will be able to generate a fully voice acted 24 episode series anime on a whim for a meme with my group chat. It's astounding what we can do now, but will be completely ignorable before we know it, which is equally wild.

Literally nobody will give a fuck about a 24 episode series that exists because you spent a few seconds writing a prompt. AI doesn’t increase the value of content, it makes it meaningless by destroying scarcity. Tea. Earl Grey. Hot.

A whole series would involve writing thousands of prompts, not just a few seconds. But since you bring it up, one thing I think we can eventually expect is an avalanche of fan created continuations of cancelled shows, like an 8th season of Star Trek: The Next Generation, or a decent 8th season of Game of Thrones. Instead of writing a tie-in novel, aspiring genre authors will write screenplays and turn them into AI movies.

Re: Seedance 1.0

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Literally nobody will give a fuck about a 24 episode series that exists because you spent a few seconds writing a prompt. AI doesn’t increase the value of content, it makes it meaningless by destroying scarcity. Tea. Earl Grey. Hot.

A whole series would involve writing thousands of prompts, not just a few seconds. But since you bring it up, one thing I think we can eventually expect is an avalanche of fan created continuations of cancelled shows, like an 8th season of Star Trek: The Next Generation, or a decent 8th season of Game of Thrones. Instead of writing a tie-in novel, aspiring genre authors will write screenplays and turn them into AI mo…

Which is the worse thing that cn happen to these shows. Most of them are already going downhill plotwise after a couple of seasons.

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More content will be made in a single month than all of human history up to this point. No more Disney-fication, no more Marvel / Star Wars "mass media slop". We'll have media that caters to people's long-tail interests. If you have a passion for Egyptology and Atlantis, you'll be able to watch a steampunk adventure about the Egyptians waging war with the Atlanteans. But perhaps with the serious tone of "The Wire". T…

Maybe we can finally get shows/movies that are faithful to the books instead of whatever slop we normally get (Looking at you WoT). Obviously a book != a script (like script for a show/movie, not a code script) but with LLMs I feel confident it could generate a script that could be reviewed directly or review the final video then go back and tweak the script as needed ("Ahh crap, it misunderstood the 'you' in that se…

Making them faithful to a book will mot necesarilly make them more entertaining or enjoyable. There is a good chance it would make them worse actually.

Re: Seedance 1.0

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The future is something like the TikTok algorithm, but generated on the fly. As you scroll, it learns what you like and generates more videos.

I think it will also try to influence what you like to maximize engagement unfortunately...

There is a moment where people might be so engaged it might not be profitable anymore though.

Brands pay for ads because it generate sales. If people become vegetables that doomscroll all day, barely pausing to eat and have a dump, they will also stop purchasing stuff.

Or maybe people will be so addicted that social medias as a drug becomes a commercial product in its own riggt and tiktok can paywall it.

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