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AOSP project is coming to an end
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Re: AOSP project is coming to an end
#92Earlier quoted context omitted.
Most of AOSP is Apache 2.0 licensed (permissive, not copyleft)
I believe the device tree stuff is GPL due to the kernel. Might be mistaken though.
A device tree is probably counted as data, so not copyrightable. I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice. But there's plenty else that is GPL, and in AVM vs Sebastian Steck, it seems that even LGPLv2 requires the manufacturer to give you all the stuff you need to install a modified version of the software, i.e. it seems that all GPL licenses imply anti-tivoization.
Re: AOSP project is coming to an end
#93I don't get the motivation behind this RedHatification. Hasn't Google already won in the Android space ? Nobody that matters is forking or using AOSP without Google's blessings anyway due to the stranglehold of Google Play Services. Why the sudden dick move ? I see some mention of the impending antitrust cases, but I don't quite see how that fits.
> Nobody that matters is forking or using AOSP without Google's blessings anyway due to the stranglehold of Google Play Services. What about Amazon's tablets?
Or every Android phone sold in China
Re: AOSP project is coming to an end
#94Earlier quoted context omitted.
If it was really about security (in the sense of that which benefits the end user) they'd just stick it behind a toggle and be done with it. I just think it's important to call out the misalignment - security can refer to the interests of the end user, or alternatively to the vendor. The ambiguity is convenient for PR statements.
We’ve decades of examples of simple toggles not working. Bad actors will just explain to the target the necessity of switching it on.
By that logic the bad actor will just explain that he needs you to log into your online bank account so could you please do that and wire some money. Such scams certainly exist but it isn't a relevant attack vector for the sort of end user security that we're talking about here.
Re: AOSP project is coming to an end
#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
It’s been a while, but is LineageOS still going strong? I’ve been thinking of switching back to non-iPhones for a while
I get the impression, yes. They still have a big list of supported devices, which means many maintainers, and they managed well to port their system to new android versions, even if a recent point release killed many devices. Have a look at https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/ , or alternatively my ROM finder https://www.sustaphones.com/ . However, I personally switched to CalyxOS. I was a bit unhappy with LineageOS p…
I really like the idea of LineageOS but got tired with fighting SafetyNet (or whatever the name is today) and playing cat and mouse game on a previous phone. I just can't have an everyday phone where 20 different things don't work. Too bad.
Re: AOSP project is coming to an end
#96Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm moving away from Pixel Phones for my next Android. Going to switch back to Samsung. I currently have a Pixel 8 and my screen went completely green and glitchy yesterday (Google "android green screen", it's a hardware issue). It freaked me out because Im in the beginning of a long vacation with tickets held digitally in various apps and email. Thankfully I eventually figured out the solution which is ridiculous, w…
You need to manage your expectations with Pixel devices. They are often on sale. Buy the A series for ~$300, which is also what the Nexus phones used to be priced at. They easily last 3+ years, and if they die after that it's no big deal. Dying early, bootlooping, overheating, etc. have been a part of these devices since they have existed.
I use my monitors, TVs, PC hardware for 10 years+. Things dying after 3 years is a big fucking deal. WTF is wrong with you.
Re: AOSP project is coming to an end
#97Not true.
From the Android VPN and GM: "We're seeing some speculation that AOSP is being discontinued. To be clear, AOSP is NOT going away. AOSP was built on the foundation of being an open platform for device implementations, SoC vendors, and instruction set architectures.
AOSP needs a reference target that is flexible, configurable, and affordable – independent of any particular hardware, including those from Google. For years, developers have been building Cuttlefish (available on GitHub as the reference device for AOSP) and GSI targets from source. We continue to make those available for testing and development purposes."
Re: AOSP project is coming to an end
#98Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Nobody that matters is forking or using AOSP without Google's blessings anyway due to the stranglehold of Google Play Services. What about Amazon's tablets?
Or every Android phone sold in China
But that's China. Google isn't playing in that sandbox at all. And all this is old news. Fire tablets have existed for more than a decade, Huawei phones w/o Play for more than half a decade.
Re: AOSP project is coming to an end
#99Earlier quoted context omitted.
You need to manage your expectations with Pixel devices. They are often on sale. Buy the A series for ~$300, which is also what the Nexus phones used to be priced at. They easily last 3+ years, and if they die after that it's no big deal. Dying early, bootlooping, overheating, etc. have been a part of these devices since they have existed.
I use my monitors, TVs, PC hardware for 10 years+. Things dying after 3 years is a big fucking deal. WTF is wrong with you.
The software also used to be supported for only that long. Support cycles have been getting longer, but so has the price. Batteries also die in a few years.
Re: AOSP project is coming to an end
#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
I tried to switch from iPhone to Pixel and switched back. Modern Pixel is absolutely not clean android. It's a mess of misfeatures. There's no clean android. iPhone is lean and compact compared to Android. GrapheneOS is solid, but built by security freaks, so unless you're a fan of OpenBSD, it makes little sense to use it. And any custom ROM locks you out of many important apps, like banks apps, NFC payments, etc (un…
"Security freaks" "OpenBSD" "Locks you out of many important apps ... (Unless you want to combat integrity system)" When did you try to switch?
Last month.