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Re: Android 16 is here

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post #87

If Android is getting desktop windowing, how long until I can just plug my phone into a monitor and keyboard and have a usable computer?

You can plug a keyboard and mouse into your Andriod phone for many years. I haven't had one work with a monitor yet, though.

Re: Android 16 is here

#92
post #48

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My main complaint with Material Expressive is that every other button seems to be 85% padding and 15% actual content. What happened to reasonable information density?

For control surfaces, padding prevents misclicks. It's actually very important part of perceived interface quality when dealing with a handheld touchscreen device.

Different topic: CSS doesn't have a good way to manage nearby clicks? A tap just a few px outside a button should click the button? s can steal focus from nearby taps on Mobile Safari (which can also be a fuckup). I hate iPhone taps that slip a little and scrollable areas having queer interactions (causing usability/accessibility issues).

Re: Android 16 is here

#93
post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My main complaint with Material Expressive is that every other button seems to be 85% padding and 15% actual content. What happened to reasonable information density?

For control surfaces, padding prevents misclicks. It's actually very important part of perceived interface quality when dealing with a handheld touchscreen device.

Yeah, but the icons and labels could use more of that padding and be larger so old folks like me can see them.

Re: Android 16 is here

#94
post #83

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Which is unfortunate, because one of the strengths of Android was the diversity of the hardware ecosystem (although that strength has been lessening as manufacturers have all begun to converge on a common set of hardware features). You could get a phone that had the features you in particular wanted. Needing to buy a particular phone to get a good experience is a bummer. I say that as someone who has had several Pixe…

Can you unlock the bootloader on your Motorola and install LineageOS or something else? If not, are you able to buy another Motorola phone where this is possible?

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Re: Android 16 is here

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This knee-jerk reaction is correct more often than not (see the terrible iOS redesign announced earlier), but in this case it seems like it might be incorrect? I looked through the highlights linked here and the full "What's New" page [0] and am pleasantly surprised to see a few new features but no major overhauls of existing ones. [0] https://www.android.com/16

Yep, I just installed on my Pixel 9 and it looks barely different from Android 15. Most of the changes seem to be in the plumbing. Material Design Expressive will only arrive in the next quarterly release.

Yeah I think this is being lost in this rollout (and a little bit in these comments). Expressive is in the next update, since this year is a big hike up in the calendar for phone release.

Re: Android 16 is here

#96
post #7

http://android.com/16 for more information rather than just these highlights

Was between submitting this and the link I did, but opted for the latter because the redesign is coming later. Thanks for adding this!

Re: Android 16 is here

#97
post #25
post #23

I like their Material Expressive design a lot more now after Apple's big reveal. While it's still a bit too colorful and whimsical for my liking, it does stay much closer to what I think should be the top UX design ideal - be clear, legible, and get out of the way . On the new iOS every screen feels like some UX designer is shouting "look how amazing I am at this!!" at me.

Couldn't agree more. Quite a fall from grace by Apple.

Apple did skeuomorphism really well, which is hard and requires a lot of design work.

I cannot understand why they gradually abandoned that, as it was clearly a competitive moat in terms of usability.

I've seen how computer illiterate or elderly people were able to navigate skeuomorphic designs with relative ease. Right now, they can't tell what is a button or a field and what isn't.

Re: Android 16 is here

#98

Remember when these launches used to revolve around the codenames. This one is Baklava . As much as Material-era numbered releases have a style, I miss the personality of the confectionary-themed marketing.

I liked the unveils of the confectionary themed Androids on the campus!

Re: Android 16 is here

#99
post #58

Can you use an external monitor with a usb-c hub and a bluetooth mouse/keyboard in desktop mode?

On Pixel 8 + Android 15, I can already connect an external monitor via "screen mirroring" feature. My keyboard and mouse, which are plugged into USB ports in the monitor, do work.

However the annoying thing is that many apps which display video (official TV streaming apps from my ISP etc.) detect the presence of an external display, and prevent video playback there. Sigh.

Re: Android 16 is here

#100

Interesting that these are no longer tied to latest Pixel phone releases

They're bringing up the phone release to a late August unveil and shipping this year, and the Material Expressive update will ship after that, so it seems a big one time shift to attempt to time it with hardware.
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