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Curtis Yarvin's Plot Against America

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Re: Curtis Yarvin's Plot Against America

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post #74

Question for 'dang - is it possible to dig up the oldest post on this website that links to somewhere on "unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com" and has some amount of comments? It would be interesting to see how people were reacting to his ideas when he first posted them.

There's a filter for this: https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=unqualified-reservati...

You can also use https://hn.algolia.com to find it.

Re: Curtis Yarvin's Plot Against America

#92
post #6

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I don't think this even is their final form...

I think it is. This stood out to me: > As his ideas have been surrealized in DOGE and Trump has taken to self-identifying as a king, one might expect to find Yarvin in an exultant mood. In fact, he has spent the past few months fretting that the moment will go to waste. “If you have a Trump boner right now, enjoy it,” he wrote two days after the election. “It’s as hard as you’ll ever get.” What many see as the most d…

I agree with you, yeah. Burned and buried would be his final form then, is what I was getting at. Sorry for not communicating that clearly.

Re: Curtis Yarvin's Plot Against America

#93
post #70

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A good measure of where China really stands is the fact that it continues to do business with Israel, even though it would be quite trivial to cut ties.

countries have no friends or enemies, only national interests

"Countries" as such do not have interests, no. This is a line the ruling class puts out when it wants to obscure the fact that its own interests are always prioritized, often to the great detriment of the vast majority of the country.

One could perhaps say that "governments" have interests, and in that case the interests of a genuine socialist state and an authoritarian regime that's just pretending to be one are quite different.

Re: Curtis Yarvin's Plot Against America

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I mentioned this previously, but I frequently think back to Gibson's "Jackpot" -- a cross-lashed, polycausal catastrophe: Lots of bad little things accumulating, building up a certain momentum. I think that even as far back as 2009, an astute observer would have noticed that society is beginning to burn through its seed corn. In some places, things are now getting extremely acute: https://www.neilobrien.co.uk/p/the-c…

> In some places, things are now getting extremely acute: https://www.neilobrien.co.uk/p/the-confluence?r=h8x

Neil O’Brien is a right wing anti-immigrant Member of Parliament… as with all politicians what he says should be taken with a pinch of salt

Re: Curtis Yarvin's Plot Against America

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Precisely, I'm not sure why Curtis is kept being discussed when if you listened to him now, it's all nonsense.

Because he says rich people should rule the world, ergo rich people like him and attempt to encode his very stupid ideas into our politics, ergo we all have to care what he says It’s really a testament to how astonishingly stupid some of those rich folks are that they find any of Yarvin’s work compelling.

And, to put this in perspective, there's 1 degree of separation between our current Vice president and Yarvin. I can guarantee that the two of them have had conversations about politics as Vance is quite close to Thiel who loves Yarvin.

These rich people have very powerful connections.

Re: Curtis Yarvin's Plot Against America

#96
post #32

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> He's foppish and playful more than he is scary. This is a very unwise stance to take. Peter Thiel has teamed up with the Heritage Foundation to implement this plan. This is why A16Z and Musk put Trump in power, it is precisely to implement this plan.

Musk is on the outs. And what if there is no grand conspiracy? We're extremely far from any of Yarvin's "plans" at any rate. Yarvin's most cherished plan was to create a shadow university called the "Antiversity" -- a sort of repository of all truths unbeholden to politics and fads. Is this a bad idea? Which other Yarvin ideas scare you so?

> Yarvin's most cherished plan was to create a shadow university called the "Antiversity" -- a sort of repository of all truths unbeholden to politics and fads. Is this a bad idea?

Yes. That is a twelve-year-olds idea of a smart idea.

Re: Curtis Yarvin's Plot Against America

#97
post #32

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> He's foppish and playful more than he is scary. This is a very unwise stance to take. Peter Thiel has teamed up with the Heritage Foundation to implement this plan. This is why A16Z and Musk put Trump in power, it is precisely to implement this plan.

Musk is on the outs. And what if there is no grand conspiracy? We're extremely far from any of Yarvin's "plans" at any rate. Yarvin's most cherished plan was to create a shadow university called the "Antiversity" -- a sort of repository of all truths unbeholden to politics and fads. Is this a bad idea? Which other Yarvin ideas scare you so?

RAGE?

Re: Curtis Yarvin's Plot Against America

#99
post #5

Scott Alexander also recently had a take on Curtis Yarvin’s recent actions: https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/moldbug-sold-out The gist of it is that he had interesting ideas on political systems in the past, but that his current ideas are nonsense, and in fact his old work explains exactly why his new work is nonsense.

A sci-fi variant of autocracy is not an interesting idea though. Why is a CEO king and a royal board of directors interesting? Its not even novel: his proposal is identical to that laid out by the "technocracy" movement a century ago.
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