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Long live American Science and Surplus

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Re: Long live American Science and Surplus

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AS&S survived for decades selling actual science and surplus, now it seems their focus has shifted to alibaba junk consumer goods and flea market reject merchandise.

A decade ago if you searched for toggle switches on their website you would have gotten dozens and dozens of results.

Now there are six, and only two of them are actual toggle switches.

Did all of the science and surplus run out?

Re: Long live American Science and Surplus

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This is a benefit of having ultra dense industry specific zones like the Shenzhen SEZ. Physical vendors get the volume to warrant operating and reasonable pricing, buyers get components on short notice. Suburbanization set up the US for failure here, and the governments haven't bothered intentionally creating any equivalent of Shenzhen. Santa Clara county used to be the spot, and I'd regularly pick up quickturn PCBs…

Is it just about having dense industrial zones? I would have imagined cost of labor to be the major cause of price differences.

A lot of the cost of silicon valley labor comes down to extremely high housing prices. A lot has been made of how the tech boom was simply a wealth transfer from investors to bay area real estate + homeowners.

Re: Long live American Science and Surplus

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This is a benefit of having ultra dense industry specific zones like the Shenzhen SEZ. Physical vendors get the volume to warrant operating and reasonable pricing, buyers get components on short notice. Suburbanization set up the US for failure here, and the governments haven't bothered intentionally creating any equivalent of Shenzhen. Santa Clara county used to be the spot, and I'd regularly pick up quickturn PCBs…

The public's (lack of) tolerance of pollution also impacted things. It's not like PCB manufacturing is clean.

PCB manufacturing isn't that bad, semiconductor fab is very nasty. It was nasty an unmitigated way during the birth of silicon valley, check out a superfund site map if you're bored.

https://www.arcgis.com/home/webmap/viewer.html?layers=c1229e...

Re: Long live American Science and Surplus

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AS&S survived for decades selling actual science and surplus, now it seems their focus has shifted to alibaba junk consumer goods and flea market reject merchandise. A decade ago if you searched for toggle switches on their website you would have gotten dozens and dozens of results. Now there are six, and only two of them are actual toggle switches. Did all of the science and surplus run out?

The demand ran out. Gen Z and Gen Alpha don’t know how this stuff works.

Re: Long live American Science and Surplus

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We used to have the most amazing little electronics store a lot like this called "Ra-Elco" in SLC, Utah, but specifically devoted to every wild bit of electronics you could imagine, ranging from individual little components of every sort all the way up to weird esoteric devices nobody's ever heard of (at least there were a lot I'd never seen before). Totally love these kinda shoppes, and I truly wish they weren't suc…

We used to have Electronics Warehouse here in SoCal (Riverside) I miss them but admit I would rarely go. Selection was definitely better than Radio Shack, but catered to an electronics era my personal designs had grown away from.

Re: Long live American Science and Surplus

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AS&S survived for decades selling actual science and surplus, now it seems their focus has shifted to alibaba junk consumer goods and flea market reject merchandise. A decade ago if you searched for toggle switches on their website you would have gotten dozens and dozens of results. Now there are six, and only two of them are actual toggle switches. Did all of the science and surplus run out?

I'm guessing the surplus ran out. I would go to the Chicago area stores a lot and could easily recognize which companies were dumping spare/reject assemblies and other shrapnel related to their work. Those companies all moved to Mexico or Asia, so there's nothing left to dump.

Re: Long live American Science and Surplus

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I like these places too but I can see why they are dying. The number of SKUs people want has exploded and the cost competition from buying online is unreal. Recently I needed a motor driver in a hurry (a4988 or equivalent) and decided to visit my local electronics shop. They wanted $9 for it (plus tax), which I was willing to pay, but were out of stock. So I went home and found a 5 pack of the exact same part for abo…

This is a benefit of having ultra dense industry specific zones like the Shenzhen SEZ. Physical vendors get the volume to warrant operating and reasonable pricing, buyers get components on short notice. Suburbanization set up the US for failure here, and the governments haven't bothered intentionally creating any equivalent of Shenzhen. Santa Clara county used to be the spot, and I'd regularly pick up quickturn PCBs…

The US used to have its own SZ in lower Manhattan. They were abandoned when Japan did things cheaper.

Re: Long live American Science and Surplus

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AS&S survived for decades selling actual science and surplus, now it seems their focus has shifted to alibaba junk consumer goods and flea market reject merchandise. A decade ago if you searched for toggle switches on their website you would have gotten dozens and dozens of results. Now there are six, and only two of them are actual toggle switches. Did all of the science and surplus run out?

I'm guessing the surplus ran out. I would go to the Chicago area stores a lot and could easily recognize which companies were dumping spare/reject assemblies and other shrapnel related to their work. Those companies all moved to Mexico or Asia, so there's nothing left to dump.

That sort of happened with Army surplus stores too for largely different reasons. Don’t even know of one around where I live any longer.

Re: Long live American Science and Surplus

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AS&S survived for decades selling actual science and surplus, now it seems their focus has shifted to alibaba junk consumer goods and flea market reject merchandise. A decade ago if you searched for toggle switches on their website you would have gotten dozens and dozens of results. Now there are six, and only two of them are actual toggle switches. Did all of the science and surplus run out?

The demand ran out. Gen Z and Gen Alpha don’t know how this stuff works.

What a ridiculous comment. Of course lots of Gen Zers know how electronics work. The oldest Gen alphaers turned 15 this year.
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