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Veo 3 and Imagen 4, and a new tool for filmmaking called Flow

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Re: Veo 3 and Imagen 4, and a new tool for filmmaking called Flow

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Hollywood's wet dream. Except it bankrupts Hollywood, they are no longer needed. Of people can generate full movies at home, there is no more Hollywood. The end game is endless ultra personalized content beamed into people's heads every free waking hour of the day. Hollywood is irrelevant in that future.

I wish I could feed Dan Simmons' books to an AI and watch at my leisure

That's potentially not far in the future. If you can drop a couple of research pdfs and generate a podcast discussion on it, it is even more straightforward to generate a video based on a text. The limit is mostly hardware.

Re: Veo 3 and Imagen 4, and a new tool for filmmaking called Flow

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After doing some testing, Imagen 4 doesn't score any higher than Imagen 3 on my comparison chart, approximately ~60% prompt adherence accuracy. https://genai-showdown.specr.net

How do you determine how many attempts are made before the results are failing?

Re: Veo 3 and Imagen 4, and a new tool for filmmaking called Flow

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I do find myself wondering if the people working on this stuff ever give any real thought to the impact on society that this is going to have.

I mean obviously the answer is "no" and this is going to get a bunch of replies saying that inventors are not to blame but the negative results of a technology like this are fairly obvious.

We had a movie two years ago about a blubbering scientist who blatantly ignored that to the detriment of his own mental health.

Re: Veo 3 and Imagen 4, and a new tool for filmmaking called Flow

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This is technically impressive and I commend the team that brought it to life. It makes me sad, though. I wish we were pushing AI more to automate non-creative work and not burying the creatives among us in a pile of AI generated content.

It makes me sad that the US and western Europe which have been the most flexible and forward-thinking societies in the world for generations have now memed themselves into fretting and hand-wringing about technical advances that are really awesome. And for what? The belief that illustration and filmmaking which have always been hobbies for the vast majority of participants should be some kind of jobs program?

Re: Veo 3 and Imagen 4, and a new tool for filmmaking called Flow

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post #70

This is technically impressive and I commend the team that brought it to life. It makes me sad, though. I wish we were pushing AI more to automate non-creative work and not burying the creatives among us in a pile of AI generated content.

The amount of gatekeeping I see when this topic is brought is outstanding! Why can't people be happy that more individuals would be soon able to create freely in a more accessible way? Personally I can't wait to see the new creative doors ai will open for us!

Creative? There's nothing creative in it.

Re: Veo 3 and Imagen 4, and a new tool for filmmaking called Flow

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post #70

This is technically impressive and I commend the team that brought it to life. It makes me sad, though. I wish we were pushing AI more to automate non-creative work and not burying the creatives among us in a pile of AI generated content.

Do you find it sad that people can use recordings, and don't have to hire musicians any more?

Recordings of who? Not only sad but a disaster, I'm sorry but anyone that ever tried to play an instrument seriously knows how much human touch/imperfections come into play, otherwise you're just an anonymous guy playing in a cover band(like the ai will do)

Re: Veo 3 and Imagen 4, and a new tool for filmmaking called Flow

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post #70

This is technically impressive and I commend the team that brought it to life. It makes me sad, though. I wish we were pushing AI more to automate non-creative work and not burying the creatives among us in a pile of AI generated content.

I’m a creative and I’m really glad that more people can express themselves Just wanted to add representation to that feeling

They always could express themselves.

Re: Veo 3 and Imagen 4, and a new tool for filmmaking called Flow

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After doing some testing, Imagen 4 doesn't score any higher than Imagen 3 on my comparison chart, approximately ~60% prompt adherence accuracy. https://genai-showdown.specr.net

The winning image entry for "The Yarrctic Circle" by OpenAI 4o doesn't actually wields a cutlass. It's very aesthetically pleasing, even though it's so wrong in all fundamental aspects (perspective is nonsensical and anatomy is messed up, with one leg 150% longer than the other, ...).

It's a very interesting resource to map some of the limits of existing models.

Re: Veo 3 and Imagen 4, and a new tool for filmmaking called Flow

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I do find myself wondering if the people working on this stuff ever give any real thought to the impact on society that this is going to have. I mean obviously the answer is "no" and this is going to get a bunch of replies saying that inventors are not to blame but the negative results of a technology like this are fairly obvious. We had a movie two years ago about a blubbering scientist who blatantly ignored that to…

How could you possibly push back on the societal benefit of a director being able buy a vacation home in Lake Tahoe?
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