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Re: Ground control to Major Trial

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Post by Bengalilol »

millzlane wrote: post #29
Meneth wrote: post #7

Around 130$ million yearly revenue? Matches RocketLab. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/companies/rocket-lab-rev...

Starlink has launched over 4000 satellites.

4000 VMs doesn't imply 4k satellites, does it? Regarding revenues, it may be correct if it is a specific division of SL. Anyways, OneWeb has 130+ millions in annual revenues (and a fleet of 400+ satellites, which would result in 10 VMs per satellite I truly loved the way this article is written. To the point, sharp and quite comical. I certainly hope they achieve to clean the mess up.

Re: Ground control to Major Trial

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Post by MichaelZuo »

mattmaroon wrote: post #82
bambax wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> publicly calling out the behavior > I’m still holding off on naming the company directly Does not compute. Why not name them?

Because they could sue you. Even if the suit is baseless it’ll cost a lot to defend, and you might accidentally give them some basis in the process

This doesn’t make sense as a risk… can’t anyone in the US already sue anyone else whenever?

Re: Ground control to Major Trial

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Post by eb0la »

russfink wrote: post #71
plam503711 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m actually considering reaching out directly to the CEO and telling the full story. But honestly? There’s a good chance he’s fully aware — and totally fine with it. That’s part of what makes it so disappointing. We’re not rushing into legal action — it’s not worth the energy for now — but publicly calling out the behavior felt necessary. It also sends a message to others in the ecosystem about the kind of nonsense…

First, congrats on having a successful company and doing what you love (and employing others - a great feeling to know you are helping technical folks live their dream). Second, some thoughts. A. State in your policy that multiple trials are possible but may incur a rest period between activations for a “given company.” Even 5 days should be reasonable for honest folks but cause a pain point for dishonest ones. B. If…

I believe all options you suggest are more than OK, but. Why don't you limit the trial with some capacity limits? Say, 1000 vms for installation. Of course, you'll need to have two artifacts: one for paying customers, and a second one to non-paying ones.

Re: Ground control to Major Trial

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Post by [deleted] »

adgjlsfhk1 wrote: post #50
plam503711 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m actually considering reaching out directly to the CEO and telling the full story. But honestly? There’s a good chance he’s fully aware — and totally fine with it. That’s part of what makes it so disappointing. We’re not rushing into legal action — it’s not worth the energy for now — but publicly calling out the behavior felt necessary. It also sends a message to others in the ecosystem about the kind of nonsense…

one option is to talk to their customers. the customers almost certainly don't know, and might be interested to know that their launch provider is possibly going to have some serious issues

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Re: Ground control to Major Trial

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Post by plam503711 »

reconnecting wrote: post #62
reconnecting wrote: post #24

You can easily prevent such trial abuse through the tirreno [0] platform, as freshly registered email accounts can be blocked almost in real time. [0] https://github.com/TirrenoTechnologies/tirreno (creator of tirreno)

I take my words back! I saw that your company is in Grenoble. Just drop me an email, and I will personally come to your office and help set up tirreno to resolve this trial abuse.

I'm open to discuss, please add me on LinkedIn :) (you can find it in the author icon at the end of the blog post)

Re: Ground control to Major Trial

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Post by 0x_rs »

Entirely understandable why it wouldn't be named. And that the comments section would have some people guessing. I wonder if it isn't a company named after an insect, given the revenue and timeline of their operations seems to match with that graph, but the "semi-governmental" is throwing me off.

Re: Ground control to Major Trial

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Post by eb0la »

balls187 wrote: post #51

As CTO, I feel pretty strongly about this type of behavior and lie the blame squarely on the Aerospace Co’s CTO. Being scrappy early on is part of the job, but when you are starting to generate revenue it’s time to convert your free tiers to starter tiers as you scale. I’m sorry that there are people in our industry who choose to behave this way.

I agree 120% with you... ... but I am wondering about how good you are using free tiers. IMHO the free tier in cloud/saas just offsets the initial costs of using the cloud/saas. So... unless you're really small free tiers won't work for you.

Re: Ground control to Major Trial

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Post by eb0la »

stefanos82 wrote: post #80

> We’re not going to waste days chasing them. But at some point, this goes beyond saving a few bucks: it becomes performance art. How about creating a "Wall of Shame" page and name shaming such companies, until the get the message that they have the financial resources to pay?

How about the opposite? You're not a paying customer, don't use trials... but let us put your logo in our website as a valued user... with some praise from the CTO, please.
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