This is very amusing, and evocative of what creative makers go through in many other fields....and as an do it my self absolutist, got me mired in attempts to pick up programing as another side gig/hussle in a life that is wildly over subscribed.
So reluctantly I am letting go of a bunch of stuff that lingers, Presque vu skills, always almost, and never enough time to push up and over.
The bonus is that I have focused on things that I did level up on, and can now do with ease, and a bit of flare......and perhaps more importantly give others a bit of joy to watch and see, "hey! that doesn't look so hard now!"
One of the things I picked up.along the way was, audio engineering, live and studio sound, where when it kicks in, it's pure misery, and every mistake and buzz, ruins all music listening, fingers twitching for sliders that are not there, griping like a back seat driver.....the better the stereo, the worse the experience, especialy with heavily produced studio work.....at least with live recordings, all the mistakes are honest and oten the recovery is where the magic happens.
The curse of knowing how, or; fixing everything
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Re: The curse of knowing how, or; fixing everything
#92Hopefully the future me is able to relate to this, because I really feel like I'm in a rut when it comes to working on personal projects. I have many ideas that I want to build, but I'd have to learn new languages, yet I just can't sit and go through the documentation every day like I should. Still haven't finished the rust book. The other way is start building already, and if you come across a block, then learn abou…
Very well said, to enjoy the process of writing the code. I don't understand why so many people suddenly started to insist on taking this all away, and they totally seriously proposed to become a janitor of a hallucinated output of some overhyped tool. That's the most frustrating thing one can imagine about programming, yet people insist on it.
And even if it is correct output from said overhyped tool it still detracts from the enjoyment of building/fixing stuff. I used to love going over the code I wrote to fix a specific issue, now not so much as half of it was written by AI so half of the satisfaction has gone too.
Re: The curse of knowing how, or; fixing everything
#93Hopefully the future me is able to relate to this, because I really feel like I'm in a rut when it comes to working on personal projects. I have many ideas that I want to build, but I'd have to learn new languages, yet I just can't sit and go through the documentation every day like I should. Still haven't finished the rust book. The other way is start building already, and if you come across a block, then learn abou…
> I have many ideas that I want to build, but I'd have to learn new languages, Why? Why, specifically, do you "have to learn new languages" ? So, sure, I can see that, for some product, you might need to learn a new tech (say ... some specific AWS/GCP/Azure service), or perhaps a new configuration language (YAML, TOML, whatever). And, sure, for some ideas (for example a mobile phone app) you're forced into that speci…
I guess it depends. If they have been developing mobile apps, and now want to develop a web app, then they definitely need to learn something like PHP, or Go or Python kr Java. On the other hand if they have been doing web development and now want to develop a native app, they must learn Java/Kotlin/Swift.
Same for databases (perhaps you never worked with one, then you must learn sql). Even html+css must be learned if you never used them before.
Re: The curse of knowing how, or; fixing everything
#94I have spent some percentage of my life attempting to rewrite all software from first principles up. Software is so spectacularly broken. Applications that don’t let me adjust the position of a little button for my work habits. Why is that impossible!?! A global software and commerce system, where you can buy candy or transfer $ billions, both with cute warnings like “Please, oh, please, sir! Please don’t hit the bac…
If you're looking at really from first principles, it's hard to beat forth systems.
You can type in Plankforth (https://github.com/nineties/planckforth) in a hex editor ie. this can be built from zero software, by effectively morse-coding it into bare memory.
In terms of accessibility though, I'd recommend Forthkit (https://github.com/tehologist/forthkit), Miniforth (https://compilercrim.es/bootstrap/), Sectorforth (https://github.com/cesarblum/sectorforth), Sectorlisp (https://justine.lol/sectorlisp2/) Freeforth (https://github.com/dan4thewin/FreeForth2 contains an inlining cross-compiler for MSP430)
The problem with forths is that they don't seem as scalable as say lisp, from a social perspective. At a larger level, Project Oberon (https://projectoberon.net/) builds from the base CPU on FPGA, and A2 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A2_(operating_system)) show what can be done to scale up.
Steps (https://github.com/robertpfeiffer/cola/tree/master/function/...) also was supposed to do this, but the available code is rather disjointed and not really easy to follow.
Re: The curse of knowing how, or; fixing everything
#95Hopefully the future me is able to relate to this, because I really feel like I'm in a rut when it comes to working on personal projects. I have many ideas that I want to build, but I'd have to learn new languages, yet I just can't sit and go through the documentation every day like I should. Still haven't finished the rust book. The other way is start building already, and if you come across a block, then learn abou…
I like to say programming is about knowing which rabbit holes to plunge down and which to step over. There's too much to know to go depth-first down every rabbit hole. Go breadth first and accept gaps in your knowledge - everyone has them. If something never comes up and never causes an issue you need to look into, and the project gets done, it doesn't matter. There's always an improvement that could have been made,…
> I like to say programming is about knowing which rabbit holes to plunge down and which to step over.
I like this a lot. I told someone once I avoid documentation like the plague and it just didn't have the same poetic ring as this line.
Sometimes you need to dive in, other times you need to hobble together something to step over
Re: The curse of knowing how, or; fixing everything
#96Serious software development is rarely an individual endeavor; most issues should be resolved through collaboration. In other words, they should be addressed through management. What the author needs to overcome, in my view, is essentially a form of extreme individualism.
I guess that's a problem for a lot of us who learned to program as teenagers. A big reason programming felt good for me is precisely because it let me do interesting and impressive stuff myself, and not collaboratively. There were very few kids who had even remotely similar interests to me back then - and that's true in adulthood too, outside of work contexts. While on the job, my projects may be collaborative in nature, but after hours, there's very few people among my family and friends who'd even be interested in doing a small software project, much less capable of doing so.
Re: The curse of knowing how, or; fixing everything
#97Hopefully the future me is able to relate to this, because I really feel like I'm in a rut when it comes to working on personal projects. I have many ideas that I want to build, but I'd have to learn new languages, yet I just can't sit and go through the documentation every day like I should. Still haven't finished the rust book. The other way is start building already, and if you come across a block, then learn abou…
Very well said, to enjoy the process of writing the code. I don't understand why so many people suddenly started to insist on taking this all away, and they totally seriously proposed to become a janitor of a hallucinated output of some overhyped tool. That's the most frustrating thing one can imagine about programming, yet people insist on it.
I don't want an AI to write my code. Coding is one of the only things I enjoy about my job and I barely get to spend any time doing it right now.
Re: The curse of knowing how, or; fixing everything
#98Hopefully the future me is able to relate to this, because I really feel like I'm in a rut when it comes to working on personal projects. I have many ideas that I want to build, but I'd have to learn new languages, yet I just can't sit and go through the documentation every day like I should. Still haven't finished the rust book. The other way is start building already, and if you come across a block, then learn abou…
> I have many ideas that I want to build, but I'd have to learn new languages, Why? Why, specifically, do you "have to learn new languages" ? So, sure, I can see that, for some product, you might need to learn a new tech (say ... some specific AWS/GCP/Azure service), or perhaps a new configuration language (YAML, TOML, whatever). And, sure, for some ideas (for example a mobile phone app) you're forced into that speci…
> There is nothing stopping you from implementing your idea in (for example) Python. Or Javascript. Or Java, C#, C++, etc
Except there is, my brain :), that's one of the constraints I'm talking about, I'm a frontend web dev and I only know JS/TS, and like some frontend web devs, I'm enamored by Rust because it seems so different. I already use JS/TS at work so I want to use something else for my personal projects. So I definitely would have to learn something new.
> You gotta make the call - are you interested in building $IDEA, or are you interested in learning $NEWLANG?
If I was only interested in building my idea, I'd have just used what I know and used AI to accelerate the process. However for me the journey is also important, I want to enjoy thinking and writing code (and this project is something only I'd use, so there's no hurry to release a prototype). The problem is I want to start writing code right away, but that has the issue that I've mentioned above (gaps in knowledge).
Nobody is at fault, other than me for setting these constraints for myself. I know the solution is to just suck up and go through the rust book, read a chapter daily and eventually I'd have all the concepts in my head that I can then just focus on writing the code. But whenever I go about doing this, my mind always persuades me that there must be a better way, or it finds some flaws in my current approach and so on. So I need to learn how to not listen to my mind in such cases, and stick to the goal that I set.
Edit - After reading a reply to my comment, I've decided to just start writing the code and not worry about having gaps, anytime I start having doubts again, I'd go through this comment thread
Re: The curse of knowing how, or; fixing everything
#99This resonates a lot with a thought that I've had for a long time..
A computer is not a tool, it never was, it never will be..
It's a workshop.
Re: The curse of knowing how, or; fixing everything
#100The site is down