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Shortest-possible walking tour to 81,998 bars in South Korea

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Re: Shortest-possible walking tour to 81,998 bars in South Korea

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But that presumably doesn't handle the relative motion of the stars, which makes the problem even trickier, since the distances will change as you travel, no? Or is my astronomy off base here?

This also doesn't handle new bars being opened and closed as you travel. Not to mention bouncers having bad days so you will have to revisit the bar.

I don't think this is presented as a means to get drunk around south korea. It's just an interesting application of TSP

Re: Shortest-possible walking tour to 81,998 bars in South Korea

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Sure, but Ohio has ~4200 bars[0]. Which is roughly 1/4 the ratio of bars to people. [0]: https://rentechdigital.com/smartscraper/business-report-deta...

Just to compare, they also have a tour for the UK https://www.math.uwaterloo.ca/tsp/uk/index.html : 49,687 pubs. They are such an urban phenomenon. A largely empty rural state, with the legacy of prohibition, where you have to drive? That's going to have way fewer drinking locations. A culture of hanging out and drinking requires walkable urbanism. Many of the UK pubs pre-date the invention of the car; "peak pub" app…

> A culture of hanging out and drinking requires walkable urbanism.

I don't think that's really true. In the UK, villages had pubs. Gradually some of the villages were joined together into larger cities, and the pubs remained. It wasn't planned as walkable urbanism.

Re: Shortest-possible walking tour to 81,998 bars in South Korea

#93
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Just to compare, they also have a tour for the UK https://www.math.uwaterloo.ca/tsp/uk/index.html : 49,687 pubs. They are such an urban phenomenon. A largely empty rural state, with the legacy of prohibition, where you have to drive? That's going to have way fewer drinking locations. A culture of hanging out and drinking requires walkable urbanism. Many of the UK pubs pre-date the invention of the car; "peak pub" app…

> A culture of hanging out and drinking requires walkable urbanism. I don't think that's really true. In the UK, villages had pubs. Gradually some of the villages were joined together into larger cities, and the pubs remained. It wasn't planned as walkable urbanism.

You didn't have to plan to get walkable urbanism before cars. It just happened because everyone needed a pub, store, school, etc. within walking distance.

Re: Shortest-possible walking tour to 81,998 bars in South Korea

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post #93

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> A culture of hanging out and drinking requires walkable urbanism. I don't think that's really true. In the UK, villages had pubs. Gradually some of the villages were joined together into larger cities, and the pubs remained. It wasn't planned as walkable urbanism.

You didn't have to plan to get walkable urbanism before cars. It just happened because everyone needed a pub, store, school, etc. within walking distance.

But it wasn't urban. That's my point.

Re: Shortest-possible walking tour to 81,998 bars in South Korea

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I am overwhelmed with the thought of nearly 82 thousand bars within a country roughly the size of Ohio.

americans always compare massive cities to empty states

Snark aside - I used this site which compares the country question to the location closest to you. I live in ohio. https://www.mylifeelsewhere.com/country-size-comparison/unit...

Re: Shortest-possible walking tour to 81,998 bars in South Korea

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But that presumably doesn't handle the relative motion of the stars, which makes the problem even trickier, since the distances will change as you travel, no? Or is my astronomy off base here?

I think your astronomy skills are correct, but if we have to worry about actual travel then you would also have to consider things like fuel capacity, refuel opportunities, the fact that you probably don't want to actually fly through a star but around it, etc.

At that point we should also factor in time relativity, making it hard to measure the actual location of the stars at all.

Re: Shortest-possible walking tour to 81,998 bars in South Korea

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I am overwhelmed with the thought of nearly 82 thousand bars within a country roughly the size of Ohio.

If this is correct, it seems like Seoul has over 40x the number of bars that Chicago has, despite having only about 4x the population

How in the hell?

Re: Shortest-possible walking tour to 81,998 bars in South Korea

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post #98

I am overwhelmed with the thought of nearly 82 thousand bars within a country roughly the size of Ohio.

If this is correct, it seems like Seoul has over 40x the number of bars that Chicago has, despite having only about 4x the population How in the hell?

The bars may be much smaller.
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