An update to our pricing

Post by jeanlucas » Tue, Apr 22, 2025, 7:17 AM UTC

graeme wrote: post #32

rudedogg wrote: post #6

> To train, develop, and improve the artificial intelligence, machine learning, and models that we use to support our Services. We may use your Log and Usage Information and Prompts and Outputs Information for this purpose. https://windsurf.com/privacy-policy Am I the only one bothered by this? Same with Gemini Advanced (paid) training on your prompts. It feels like I’m paying with money, but also handing over my ent…

Oh, that's not great. Cursor has a privacy mode where you can avoid this. >If you enable "Privacy Mode" in Cursor's settings: zero data retention will be enabled, and none of your code will ever be stored or trained on by us or any third-party. https://www.cursor.com/privacy

Post by adamgordonbell » Tue, Apr 22, 2025, 10:30 AM UTC

ako wrote: post #84

runako wrote: post #74

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> The plans aren't the right size for professional work I think there is a fundamental pricing misalignment between products that seek to do professional work being sold to people who want them to help with professional work. Another way: their pricing will likely make much more sense for a person whose coding skill is closer to zero (& who doesn't want to learn) than it will for a person who is looking for an AI ass…

For me it felt the opposite: pricing works for software engineers that carefully validate every line of code, that will ask for test and documentation. It doesn’t work for vibe coding where the user will just trial and error code generation until it works. You’re running through credits much faster this way.

Post by replwoacause » Tue, Apr 22, 2025, 1:32 PM UTC

ako wrote: post #83

replwoacause wrote: post #75

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It seems most people aren’t worried about handing their code over to LLMs. Why is that? Isn’t there a concern that they will just train on your code? What if you’re trying to build a business, is there a fear that your idea or implementation will just get stolen or absorbed into the LLM and spit out into someone else’s code base? Or do people just not care anymore because code is so trivial to generate that it’s not…

Most llms have a privacy mode, including windsurf, that state they don’t use your input for training. But I think your last sentence is key, code is hardly ever so unique that it’s super valuable by itself. Ideas can be copied easily. For most software, it’s the whole package: really tackling the user problem, with the best user experience, with the right pricing, training, enablement, support, roadmap, community, ne…

Post by moshegramovsky » Tue, Apr 22, 2025, 4:24 PM UTC

replwoacause wrote: post #75

moshegramovsky wrote: post #73

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It depends. For a class or a function, yes, I copy and paste. When I want a review of a larger project I am working on (2500 classes), I concatenate the chunks of the codebase into a .txt file and upload it to Gemini. Then we go over it. I've even uploaded the entire codebase and asked it to write documentation and it did an excellent job providing a framework for me.

It seems most people aren’t worried about handing their code over to LLMs. Why is that? Isn’t there a concern that they will just train on your code? What if you’re trying to build a business, is there a fear that your idea or implementation will just get stolen or absorbed into the LLM and spit out into someone else’s code base? Or do people just not care anymore because code is so trivial to generate that it’s not…