Live data from Hacker News

Generate videos in Gemini and Whisk with Veo 2

blog.google

91–100 of 142 posts

Re: Generate videos in Gemini and Whisk with Veo 2

#91
Pretty disappointed with content moderation on Veo2. Here are the steps I did:

1. Took a picture of me and asked to describe person in the image.

2. Used Imagegen to create the cartoon version using description.

3. Tried to use veo-2.0-generate-001 to generate video of person in image (holding a coffee cup in original image) drinking coffee and having a conversation.

Video generation is blocked by content moderation.

Re: Generate videos in Gemini and Whisk with Veo 2

#92
The UI on this product page does not make any sense to me. The three prompt workflows don’t stack in any obvious way, then seemingly combine on any submission to the main prompt area?

They generate independent images.

Gemini’s web interface is also way behind chatgpt and Claude. The mobile app is even worse.

This is while having the champ 2.5 pro model in the pocket.

It seems that web product resources are not getting adequate allocation to the AI group(s).

Re: Generate videos in Gemini and Whisk with Veo 2

#94

Whisk itself ( https://labs.google/fx/tools/whisk ) was released a few months ago under the radar as a demo for Imagen 3 and it's actually fun to play with and surprisingly robust given its particular implementation. It uses a prompt transmutation trick (convert the uploaded images into a textual description; can verify by viewing the description of the uploaded image) and the strength of Imagen 3's actually modern t…

Why text? why not encode the image into some latent space representation, so that it can survive a round-trip more or less faithfully?

There’s a thing called CLIP Vision that sort of does that, but it converts the image into conditioning space (the same space as the embeddings from a text prompt). I’d say it works… OK.

Re: Generate videos in Gemini and Whisk with Veo 2

#95
post #93

Content moderation is incredibly frustrating — it might even be the key reason why Veo2 and even Gemini could ultimately fail. I just want to make some fun videos where my kid plays a superhero, but it keeps failing.

I have the same issues with OpenAI. Supposedly Grok is better, but their quality isn't as high.

Re: Generate videos in Gemini and Whisk with Veo 2

#96
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I came to the same sort of conclusion when watching Kitsune, which I think was one person and VEO https://vimeo.com/1047370252 Granted, 5 minutes isn't 1h30 but it's not a million miles away either.

This actually so amateurish and cliche it's painful. The fact people like this shows that art never had a chance when the masses have no taste. This makes me depressed for artists and the future.

[deleted]

Re: Generate videos in Gemini and Whisk with Veo 2

#97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everyone keeps ignoring supply and demand when talking about the impacts of AI. Let's just assume it really gets so good you can do this and it doesn't suck. Yes the costs will get so low that there will be almost no barrier to making content but if there is no barrier to making content, the ROI will be massive, and so everyone will be doing it, you can more or less have the exact movie you want in your head on deman…

Totally agree. This is what Instagram and YouTube did and we got MrBeast and Kylie Jenner making billions of dollars. The cost of creating content is tapping record on your phone and the traditional "quality" as defined by visuals doesn't matter (see Quibi). Viral videos are selfies recorded in the bedroom. When you lower the barrier to entry things get more heterogeneous, not less. So you have bigger outcomes, not s…

No single piece of content grossed 100m though. It just allowed for more low investment content at a higher rate, while the popularity of the site pushed them to celebrity status.

Re: Generate videos in Gemini and Whisk with Veo 2

#99
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I came to the same sort of conclusion when watching Kitsune, which I think was one person and VEO https://vimeo.com/1047370252 Granted, 5 minutes isn't 1h30 but it's not a million miles away either.

This actually so amateurish and cliche it's painful. The fact people like this shows that art never had a chance when the masses have no taste. This makes me depressed for artists and the future.

Observations like these remind me of The Académie des Beaux-Arts in France, and more specifically its official Salon (the Salon de Paris), keeping Impressionist painters out of established exhibitions.

Re: Generate videos in Gemini and Whisk with Veo 2

#100
post #4

I think I would buy "yes" shares in a Polymarket event that predicts a motion picture created by a single person grossing more than $100M by 2027.

Everyone keeps ignoring supply and demand when talking about the impacts of AI. Let's just assume it really gets so good you can do this and it doesn't suck. Yes the costs will get so low that there will be almost no barrier to making content but if there is no barrier to making content, the ROI will be massive, and so everyone will be doing it, you can more or less have the exact movie you want in your head on deman…

Unless something radically changes, we're quite far from creating movies on demand. Most AI video generators cost ~$1-10 per minute. And generally it takes many attempts to generate a few seconds of anything that's not completely trash.

Another issue is quality. Most of these AI generators output quite blurry 720p. If you want proper 4K output, we're at least a couple of doublings away.

I think we will have some decent AI-generated animations next year, because 2D cartoons are relatively easy to upscale.

Post reply on HN