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Re: Tailscale has raised $160M

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Post by freedomben »

aqfamnzc wrote: post #46
aborsy wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is not correct. Wireguard establishes a tunnel between peer A and B, and its simplicity stops there. Tailscale does tons of complex networking, filtering, nat traversal, DNS, file sharing, etc. Wireguard is a small part of the codebase today, which has grown a lot. It’s a bit like saying Dropbox is just a GUI on top of TLS.

> It’s a bit like saying Dropbox is just a GUI on top of TLS. Well, it is. After all, for a Linux user, you can already build such a system yourself quite trivially...

Isn't Dropbox just a GUI on top of rsync? I've also seen people say "FTP"

Re: Tailscale has raised $160M

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Post by formerly_proven »

tptacek wrote: post #76
homebrewer wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most of this was successfully done 20 years ago by tinc, which is a project written by a couple of European guys in their free time. It even supports routing traffic through other peers and does peer discovery just like BitTorrent (but before BitTorrent even existed) — there is no need for a central server. What tailscale has over it is hype, lots and lots of hype. Also a much more well thought out, and arguably more…

If it's hype, it's not hype the way you're thinking. I've shown Tailscale to a lot of people (this is less salient now, when pretty much everybody uses Tailscale) and the most common reaction I've gotten is "holy shit". It is spooky simple to get working, and it's spooky simple to go from a working installation to a VPN configuration that would take many many hours to replicate with pre-existing tools. There may be V…

My only technical complaint with Tailscale is that its hole punching doesn't seem to work with some common CGNATs/double NATs when both endpoints are using them, and then traffic ends up trickling through their public proxy servers, while running your own is kinda annoying and not recommended or documented.

Re: Tailscale has raised $160M

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Post by renerick »

codethief wrote: post #82
srameshc wrote: post #17

I don't probably use Tailscale to it's full potential but I love this tool. We have our small servers at our offices across the world and it has give us so much flexibility to access some of the files via shared drives or try out installing / testing stuff. Me and my wife also drop each other pictures of our kids using tailscale now.

> Me and my wife also drop each other pictures of our kids using tailscale now. What application are you using for that (on top of Tailscale, that is)?

Tailscale has Taildrop - built-in peer-to-peer file sharing feature

https://tailscale.com/kb/1106/taildrop

Re: Tailscale has raised $160M

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Post by kccqzy »

nickthegreek wrote: post #86
evanjrowley wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sometimes I have issues like this. It's related to my ISP not supporting IPv6. I don't have time to explain this in detail, but at least that's one angle of it that you might want to explore further.

Same. When my cell has an ip6 ip, I can’t get dns to resolve on my systems at home. I can still access everything by ip4 ip though. I haven’t had time to find a solution yet. I’m still trying to figure out if it’s nginx, pi-hole, router, or Tailscale config related… probably a combination.

I encountered a similar issue when I first started using Tailscale. My fix is simple: disable IPv4 inside Tailscale. Just use the v6 ULA address that begins with fd7a exclusively. This works even if your ISP doesn't support IPv6: the inner IPv6 packets can be encapsulated inside v4 packets. There's unfortunately no GUI to do this; you'll have to change the Tailscale ACL to disable IPv4.

Re: Tailscale has raised $160M

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Post by Valien »

tptacek wrote: post #78
suralind wrote: post #18

Off-topic, but it makes me laugh that companies will list their “investors”, “advisors”, etc. on their company page, but not the people working there. That said, Tailscale is one of the products that just works.

I think they might be operating at a scale that breaks those kinds of pages at this point? Not literally, of course, just they're past the point where the page makes sense.

You can always find a lot of us on LinkedIn :D {I work at Tailscale}

Re: Tailscale has raised $160M

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Post by slig »

devmor wrote: post #51

Depressing news, I have no hope that the countdown to Tailscale being unusable subscription trash has not started with this announcement. I realize this is a very ironic place to make this statement, but I am utterly exhausted by VC money destroying all of the services I enjoy, like a slow disease spreading through a herd of livestock.

They have raised before, so that money helped shape the service you enjoy.

Re: Tailscale has raised $160M

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Post by tptacek »

radlad wrote: post #84
tptacek wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No it won't. The reference is universally misunderstood. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...

I think the parent commenter used "understood" to mean "recognized." That said, I don't really understand the supposed misunderstanding you point out. It seems that dang argues that "the exchange was pleasant and successful." I've never seen someone claim otherwise. Rather, I've seen it used as an example of how technical users can fail to recognize the complexity inherent in their workflows, and therefore may also f…

No, it's not that simple. This is an instance of context collapse; people dunk on that exchange because they believe it's an HN person belittling Dropbox as a product, when in fact it was an HN person helpfully offering notes on a YC application.

Re: Tailscale has raised $160M

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Post by freedomben »

suralind wrote: post #18

Off-topic, but it makes me laugh that companies will list their “investors”, “advisors”, etc. on their company page, but not the people working there. That said, Tailscale is one of the products that just works.

I agree it's silly, but worth noting is that the target audience for those pages are usually:

1. Potential customers

2. Potential investors

Both groups are a lot more swayable by social proof from seeing the "investors" than the devs as they infer a lot of credibility based on who has funded you. Similarly that's why you often see big company logos on marketing pages because it makes other customers more likely to buy. " is too big to be wrong about this product"

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