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Nintendo unveils Switch 2 ahead of June 5 launch

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Re: Nintendo unveils Switch 2 ahead of June 5 launch

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Post by hobofan »

mepian wrote: post #46
minimaxir wrote: post #2

The real takeaway is $80 MSRP games, and I’m surprised it was Nintendo that crossed that particular Rubicon.

90 EUR in Europe. This completely deflated my interest in the Switch 2, I'd rather finish my combined Switch 1 and Steam backlog than support this price creep, considering that Nintendo games practically never get discounted.

Yeah, same here. My Switch is essentially a indie game console (~indish, e.g. Hades, Darkest Dungeon), as I didn't want to pay the absurd prices of the first party titles.

With the Steam Deck coming out in the meantime, I'll likely pick that up soon instead of a Switch 2. Around the same price, much better specs (and also Bluetooth support, which the Switch 2 will supposedly be missing again), and access to a much bigger library of games.

Re: Nintendo unveils Switch 2 ahead of June 5 launch

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Post by TheBigSalad »

alabastervlog wrote: post #8

Mmm. All I wanted was a Switch with bumped specs and a lot more durability. They could have come up with something out of left field that I cared about, like they often do, but cameras and a dedicated chat button? Things I've been intentionally avoiding or being annoyed by on other consoles since either thing has existed? I hope there's a way to disable the chat button entirely, so I'm not accidentally triggering a f…

A lot of kids these days socialize together and talk on the phone while playing games. I think the camera and seeing each other's screens on Minecraft or Fortnite will be huge for them. I can relate though, I'm also on enough video calls to not want this in my free time.

Re: Nintendo unveils Switch 2 ahead of June 5 launch

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Post by napolux »

mepian wrote: post #55
madduci wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't believe this will get cheaper

If it bombs, it will. The Nintendo 3DS set a precedent for this.

not looking for a discount, looking for subtle improvements on the hardware (i.e. maybe magnetic joycons will fail fast and be fixed in Switch 2.0.1)

Re: Nintendo unveils Switch 2 ahead of June 5 launch

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Post by rchaud »

ihuman wrote: post #18
Y_Y wrote: post #9

> Nintendo will send out invitations for "priority" purchasing of the Switch 2, direct from the company, starting on May 8. Those who have purchased a Switch Online membership as of April 2, have had it for a minimum of 12 months, have opted to share gameplay data, and have logged at least 50 hours get priority. There will be a 72-hour window in which to use priority purchasing invitations. So they're trying to circu…

If the person doesn't share gameplay data, then Nintendo can't know if the person played at least 50 hours

Can't the person register their device on the Nintendo website, with a serial number and date of purchase? That's often needed for electronics repairs. That alone should be enough to determine whether the person is a scalper or true fan.

Re: Nintendo unveils Switch 2 ahead of June 5 launch

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Post by philistine »

galleywest200 wrote: post #59

One interesting thing is that they seem to have multiple types of physical cards. I am assuming they will have normal physical games but they also have these "key cards" [1] which I assume will be for MASSIVE games or games from really small teams who are short on cash. Since the digital purchase is tied to a physical game I assume you can resell/buy these used as well. [1] https://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/ap…

Holy smokes, it's big news that Nintendo is bringing this functionality in-house so to speak. There were many third-party Switch games that implemented similar features with codes in the box or required downloads that would confuse users.

Coupled with those confusing cartridges, Nintendo sells cards that could be redeemed for a copy of a game. They're shaped like credit cards, and I always thought they made for horrible gifts. They just don't look good as a gift. These cartridges solve that problem.

This is a clean interface in terms of the software and the sales experience, is as cheap as possible for the devs, and preserves the resale value (so long as Nintendo keeps their store open). This, my friends, is the future of physical games.

If I were Microsoft or Sony, I would pay attention to the reception of these cards. I wouldn't be surprised if Sony's next console has a cheap card reader to allow physical copies with a similar system.

Re: Nintendo unveils Switch 2 ahead of June 5 launch

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Post by philistine »

Y_Y wrote: post #9

> Nintendo will send out invitations for "priority" purchasing of the Switch 2, direct from the company, starting on May 8. Those who have purchased a Switch Online membership as of April 2, have had it for a minimum of 12 months, have opted to share gameplay data, and have logged at least 50 hours get priority. There will be a 72-hour window in which to use priority purchasing invitations. So they're trying to circu…

Keep in mind that this is Nintendo's store policy. If you buy your Switch 2 from any other retailer, we do not yet know what the requirements will be.

Re: Nintendo unveils Switch 2 ahead of June 5 launch

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Post by philistine »

jpalawaga wrote: post #51

Despite all of the negative/critical takes, I think the switch 2 looks great. The hardware improvements look nice. The top usb-port is a great addition with the kickstand, so you can actually charge while you play (this was a bust with switch 1). I think the camera is also good. I actually really look forward to playing mario games with my nieces. And for those who don't want it, it's no extra cost. 120fps and 1080p…

> The top usb-port is a great addition

I hate that port, because they removed the USB-A ports from the dock in favour of this. This means their flagship camera needs to be plugged in every time you dock. It's classic Nintendo ridiculousness of one step forward, two steps back.

Re: Nintendo unveils Switch 2 ahead of June 5 launch

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Post by hobofan »

minimaxir wrote: post #60
mepian wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it bombs, it will. The Nintendo 3DS set a precedent for this.

The 3DS (and relatedly the Wii U) bombed because they had fatal, expensive gimmicks. The Switch 2 is a hardware iteration that everyone has been asking for. It won't bomb.

> that everyone has been asking for

That hardcore Switch gamers have been asking for.

Most people I know that own a Switch use it rarely and casually. For them a mere hardware iteration isn't enough of a reason to get the new one. I would suspect that a good 60% of Switch owners fall into that category. However, even if it only gets half of the sales that the switch had, that would make it the most successful current generation console.

Re: Nintendo unveils Switch 2 ahead of June 5 launch

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Post by rchaud »

minimaxir wrote: post #2

The real takeaway is $80 MSRP games, and I’m surprised it was Nintendo that crossed that particular Rubicon.

Nintendo is the Apple of videogames, especialy with the vertical integration and pricing.

Their games were always incredibly expensive. 30 years ago, I remember being stunned to hear that my friend's SNES copy of Mortal Kombat II was GBP 70. From this Reddit post, I'm seeing Canadian prices were equally absurd. CAD 95 for Batman Forever on SNES.

https://www.reddit.com/r/snes/comments/12aq8zu/snes_games_pr...

Re: Nintendo unveils Switch 2 ahead of June 5 launch

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Post by tessellated »

nickvec wrote: post #35

Will they have fixed joycon drift though?

I had luck with WD-40. Bought Switch ca. 1 year after Zelda, small drift was mitigatable through whiggling the joys a long time. Then, Witcher, I had enough of it and sprayed a tiny amount into both. Working like a Charm since then. YMMV
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