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Re: Most promoted and blocked domains on Kagi

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Post by pesus »

lolinder wrote: post #36
agnishom wrote: post #31

Some people seem to be blocking `w3schools.com`. What is the rationale?

It has a pretty bad reputation from an earlier era when it was actively providing bad information [0]. That's largely been resolved from what I understand, but the reputation lives on. People may also just find that they don't get a lot of value from it, but if that were the only reason I'd expect geekforgeeks to rank equally high with it or higher. [0] https://www.w3fools.com/

Is w3fools now defunct, or just broken on mobile? All I'm seeing is a message explaining that w3schools doesn't suck as much anymore.

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains on Kagi

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Post by yellowapple »

fumufumufumu wrote: post #85

What I gather from this is few if any non-software devs use Kagi 8 of the top 10 "raised" sites are software dev sites and with #6 being MDN I'm guessing it's not just any software devs, is web developers specifically that use Kagi. Am I drawing the wrong conclusion? Does that mean Kagi's days are numbered? What would it take for them to get enough non-web-devs that the top 10 raised looked more representative of the…

> Does that mean Kagi's days are numbered?

Why would it mean that their days are numbered? Nothing wrong with having steady income from a loyal customer-base, even if that customer-base is niche.

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains on Kagi

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Post by lolinder »

pesus wrote: post #91
lolinder wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It has a pretty bad reputation from an earlier era when it was actively providing bad information [0]. That's largely been resolved from what I understand, but the reputation lives on. People may also just find that they don't get a lot of value from it, but if that were the only reason I'd expect geekforgeeks to rank equally high with it or higher. [0] https://www.w3fools.com/

Is w3fools now defunct, or just broken on mobile? All I'm seeing is a message explaining that w3schools doesn't suck as much anymore.

Yes, that's all that's there now. It has a link to the archive version that detailed the sins of the old w3schools.

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains on Kagi

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Post by pesus »

lolinder wrote: post #93
pesus wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is w3fools now defunct, or just broken on mobile? All I'm seeing is a message explaining that w3schools doesn't suck as much anymore.

Yes, that's all that's there now. It has a link to the archive version that detailed the sins of the old w3schools.

Ah, missed the archive link, thanks.

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains on Kagi

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Post by accelbred »

Brajeshwar wrote: post #46

Two different views for logged-in users and public. I realize that it has a different view from a different non-logged-in browser (or incognito). I stopped wearing T-Shirt swags from companies quite a while back. Recently, I thought of promoting Kagi and wore the T-Shirt they sent at a few meet-ups, office spaces with lots of tech-people and no-one recognize it. A few of them thought, when we talked, if the logo is f…

At the airport, on the way to a Linux conference, I wore the Kagi shirt and people initiated conversations due to it.

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains on Kagi

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Post by Spivak »

fumufumufumu wrote: post #85

What I gather from this is few if any non-software devs use Kagi 8 of the top 10 "raised" sites are software dev sites and with #6 being MDN I'm guessing it's not just any software devs, is web developers specifically that use Kagi. Am I drawing the wrong conclusion? Does that mean Kagi's days are numbered? What would it take for them to get enough non-web-devs that the top 10 raised looked more representative of the…

Their days aren't numbered because they've built a sustainable business with a small team of developers that doesn't require a huge user-base to fund. Arguably if Kagi were more popular it would be worse. Just the fact that they aren't Google and use their own ranking while being small enough to avoid the notice of SEO hackers carries them a long way.

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains on Kagi

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Post by yellowapple »

kjs3 wrote: post #78
zonkerdonker wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a nightmare for finding the original sources of images. For example, I was looking for a new sink basin and doing some quick image searches for various styles. All the ones I liked were pinterest posts with zero attribution. A reverse image search then just brings up dozens of ripped and reposted copies of that pinterest post, also without attribution. It gets frustrating

I assume with the 'popularity' bias (probably not the right phrase) in the modern internet this is pretty much the future of search. Someone comes up with something cool, posts a pix, and someone else puts it on Twit/Face/Tube/whatever and it gets reposted over and over and over and since the original is some worthless peon as far as the algorithm is concerned you'll never, ever find them.

I wonder if that's something that can be addressed by embedding the right metadata into images/videos? Most people don't bother even checking e.g. Exif data (let alone stripping or otherwise altering it) when reposting content they find online.

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains on Kagi

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Post by Spivak »

danpalmer wrote: post #45
asadotzler wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a garbage site and there are far better non-profit web specification and utilization sites like MDN Web Docs. https://developer.mozilla.org/

It's targeting a different market. The MDN web docs are excellent reference material, but if you're learning or early in your career they're impenetrable. W3Schools has a reputation of over-simplification (to the point of being wrong sometimes), but that's not at odds with being useful to people at a particular stage in their career. For another example, I gather that most of the high school chemistry I learnt is wro…

Education is a series of smaller lies. It's one of the corollaries to "all models are, wrong some are useful."

Some lies are actually better than the truth. My favorite example is that shooters are taught to imagine their sights being in line with their gun and that's they're shooting horizontally. But they're not, they're shooting in an arc so over short distances bullet just rises a little. Don't ask why. Why it's cool is that people using this model are better shots.

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains on Kagi

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Post by harrall »

omoikane wrote: post #70
titaphraz wrote: post #19

Pintrest owns all the top 7 blocked results. Good, they've earned it. I never understood why Google let them destroy Google Image search results.

Apparently Pinterest has half a billion users[1], presumably significant number of those appreciate those search results. I am also going to guess that there is little overlap between those 500M users with HN's 5M users[2] or Kagi's 43K users[3]. So while those results-gated-behind-logins might seem annoying to us, we are in the minority. [1] https://www.statista.com/statistics/463353/pinterest-global-... [2] https:/…

I like Pinterest a lot.

I find art, tattoo ideas, home decor, concrete/wood builds, clothing fits, wedding themes…

It’s like a one-stop-shop when you need some fresh ideas on design.

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