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IPhone caused "crisis of design" at Samsung

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Re: IPhone caused "crisis of design" at Samsung

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Jokes on them, the Nexus 7 is a better product IMO.

What % of Android tablets in circulation are the Nexus 7? I'm sure cyclinghacker2's friends are referring to the Galaxy Tab, the Xoom, etc.

Probably not even those. There's still a flood of cheap no-name Android tablets out there.

Re: IPhone caused "crisis of design" at Samsung

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Yeah, my father-in-law who was a die hard Sprint customer had it. It was definitely being pushed hard as Sprint's iPhone equivalent, even if Samsung wasn't marketing it directly as such. Before that, Sprint was laughably selling the HTC Touch with WinMo6.5 and some crappy skin as their iPhone equivalent. Maybe it's just hindsight bias, but as I recall, hardware manufacturers didn't seem to do nearly as much direct br…

Speaking of hindsight bias, IMHO,the HTC Touch & WinMo 5/6.5 made for a better "smartphone" than its contemporary iPhone. Despite it's attempt at touch/tap (had a stylus), it was pretty fantastic. WinMo had applications, easy syncing, file system access, an active developer/hacker community, Exchange support, etc. The exchange support alone made it far more valuable to me than the iPhone. Where it lacked was polish o…

I actually had the HTC Touch (I had a $30/mo unlimited SERO plan, couldn't complain).

It was a rock solid device (I even had Android flashed on it and in many ways it outperformed my "legit Android" Samsung Moment). WinMo6.5 was also a fine competitor in the PalmOS era, but everyone except AT&T tried really hard to sell skinned WinMo6.5 devices as touch friendly interfaces even sans-stylus in response to the iPhone. That fell flat on it's face once you tried to use any non-superficial feature on WinMo6. Dial a number? Sure, use your fingers. Need to enter a new contact? Bust out that stylus.

Re: IPhone caused "crisis of design" at Samsung

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Well one difference is that patents only have a lifespan of what 20 years or so? Most of the basic tech in a car that was patented in the 1900's is free to be used and improved upon. Is new stuff patented and licensed? Yes, absolutely it is. Notice how Toyota partnered with Tesla motors to build an EV SUV? Or what about how Ford licensed Toyota's hybrid technology back in 2004? Patents and licensing. Given that the a…

Apple also sued HTC and Motorola. They are attacking every successful Android manufacturer. It has nothing to do with what Samsung did specifically. Apple first decided to sue Samsung and then the lawyers came up with the arguments.

AFAIK, they aren't suing HTC and Motorola for infringing on their trade dress and design patents though, only Samsung is getting that attack. And, it's not like Apple's the only one participating in the patent lawsuit game, it's a big web of lawsuits where they're all suing each other for something or other. We single out Apple in this mess because they're the most headline worthy.

Re: IPhone caused "crisis of design" at Samsung

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It seems like the lawyer may have fucked up, or it may be some brilliant Perry Mason-eque trap. But if the latter, why fight the memo's introduction into evidence in the first place? So I'd guess it was a mistake. Anyway, the memo by itself doesn't damn Samsung, but in context with, oh, the radius of curvature of every corner of key products being changed to exactly match Apple's devices, the color and arrangement of…

Kind of like how Apple modeled themselves after Sony. Interesting that this sort of legal battle never happened with car manufacturers as cars from various manufacturers tend to share fashionable design attributes.

There's a difference between modeling yourself after someone -- "Sony is cool because it cares about quality and design, and we should too" -- and slavishly copying them.

Samsung certainly doesn't model itself after Apple. It just copies their product designs down to the packaging and marketing.

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