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Goblin.tools: simple, single-task tools to help neurodivergent people with tasks

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Re: Goblin.tools: simple, single-task tools to help neurodivergent people with tasks

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Post by nailer »

wolfgang42 wrote: post #70
nailer wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think most people would consider that launching a website is a separate task from viewing a website.

Most computer people, perhaps. For the average user the difference between an app and a website (especially an app-like website) is much fuzzier, and “launching” an app sounds more technical (and thus more appropriate for an operation that they don’t entirely understand) than “opening” it, so that’s the word they use.

I expect an LLM to be smarter than that, particularly for an audience that frequently works in the technology industry.

Re: Goblin.tools: simple, single-task tools to help neurodivergent people with tasks

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Post by steve_adams_86 »

lolinder wrote: post #86
Onawa wrote: post #78

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Except that isn't how neurodivergence works. Yes, everything that the commenter originally posted are things that happen to normal people as well. The difference is in the intensity and duration of these symptoms. Your comment is overly idealistic about neurodivergent people dealing with their problems. If it was a simple as accepting that our symptoms are normal, don't you think that we would gladly take that as an…

Yes. Identifying it as just part of being human doesn't explain at all why I, in particular, am regularly incapacitated by these things, and it's the sense of incapacity that causes the shame. You can absolutely rephrase "that's my ADHD" to "that's within the range of normal after all", but having a proper label for a cluster of people who stand out as a clearly distinct normal curve from the rest of the population i…

I like to frame it as a disability. I fought it for ages and wanted to believe I was normal.

This is like trying to climb a tree with one arm. It won’t work. You need to take a step back, look at the problem, and develop systems which accommodate the missing arm.

ADHD only works well for us when we involve ourselves in activities which benefit from having one, extremely well-practiced arm. That’s usually our happy place. The world typically asks for all limbs in tact, though. We inevitably hit those walls.

If we pretend we won’t hit those walls and we don’t prepare ourselves, life is disproportionately hard.

We also need to ensure we accept the disability such that when we do our best to be prepared, but we fail to be, we recognize that it’s a fact of life and we do our best with what we’ve got.

I’m not a fan of the super power framing. I’m a fan of looking at it as a disability with positive, optimistic framing. When we get it right, life can work really well for us. We will always be at a disadvantage in some ways, but the skills and experiences we get because of that can be invaluable.

Re: Goblin.tools: simple, single-task tools to help neurodivergent people with tasks

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no_wizard wrote: post #84
quibono wrote: post #44

This could be overgeneralising a bit... but I see a lot of people with ADHD (on- and offline) who tend to make it an essential part of their identity. I realise it's a very impactful thing to have to deal with (I have ADHD too) but I feel like a lot of the time it's brought up for no real reason. E.g. you started daydreaming when reading a book? Forgot something to do when you walked through a doorway? Got angry? You…

> I see a lot of people with ADHD (on- and offline) who tend to make it an essential part of their identity Honest question: why is this an issue? If someone makes it part of their identity its because they feel its important for others to know, and that can be for a variety of reasons. Is there a reason we shouldn't make it part of our identity, if we so choose?

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Re: Goblin.tools: simple, single-task tools to help neurodivergent people with tasks

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Post by mvieira38 »

BaudouinVH wrote: post #13

I've ADHD and I'm on the spectrum. Others may differ - it's a spectrum after all- but I feel no list-only app will ever silence the drunk baboon on my shoulder constantly pulling my attention from what I'm doing. I'd advise goblin.tools to market itself differently and aim for the neurotypical market as well. #my2cents

Yeah, no gameification or breaking down can make doing the dishes or writing documentation more interesting than whatever my interest of the month is, unfortunately. I'd be beyond cooked without medication

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Post by scubbo »

> goblin.tools is written and maintained by Bram De Buyser, an AI, software and data engineer.

I'm not saying that a semicolon and an Oxford comma are _necessary_, here - but I am saying that I did a double-take at my first interpretation that we are now naming and personifying AIs.

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Post by nsagent »

Onawa wrote: post #78
flakeoil wrote: post #73

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Except that isn't how neurodivergence works. Yes, everything that the commenter originally posted are things that happen to normal people as well. The difference is in the intensity and duration of these symptoms. Your comment is overly idealistic about neurodivergent people dealing with their problems. If it was a simple as accepting that our symptoms are normal, don't you think that we would gladly take that as an…

I most likely would be diagnosed with ADHD if I sought a formal diagnosis (my ex, who I was with for over a decade is a clinical psychologist and said I most likely have ADHD; my brother is diagnosed with it and my mom's ADHD traits make the both of us look tame). The thing is, I just don't buy into the rampant pathologizing that's so prevalent these days.

It's really a societal problem, and is being treated as a human failing. I contend that it's society that's expecting humans to behave in a way we haven't needed for most of our evolution.

These include: having exacting time standards disconnected from seasons and day/night cycles, having to juggle many more cognitively intense tasks that we need to quickly switch amongst, being exposed to media and technology specifically designed to capture your attention for as long as possible, etc.

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Post by edaemon »

huvarda wrote: post #21

I asked it to break down eating a pie, this is what I got: Choose a pie Gather necessary utensils (fork, plate, napkin) Place the pie on the plate Cut a slice of the pie Pick up the slice with the fork Bring the slice to your mouth Take a bite of the pie Chew and savor the flavor Repeat until finished Dispose of any leftovers responsibly Clean up the utensils and plate Maybe an absurd example but I feel like somethin…

Hm, these instructions are interesting -- is it suggesting I repeatedly pick up an entire slice of pie with a fork and take bites out of it?

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Post by nsagent »

dijit wrote: post #53
quibono wrote: post #44

This could be overgeneralising a bit... but I see a lot of people with ADHD (on- and offline) who tend to make it an essential part of their identity. I realise it's a very impactful thing to have to deal with (I have ADHD too) but I feel like a lot of the time it's brought up for no real reason. E.g. you started daydreaming when reading a book? Forgot something to do when you walked through a doorway? Got angry? You…

It's likely a definitive example of selection bias, you won't hear people not talking about having it, but ADHD affects (approximately) 30% of the population. Assuming even a tiny amount of those are loud when exploring their discovery would mean a lot of people talking about it online. This is likely also combined with Millennials (my cohort at least) being one of the most self-aware generational cohorts in history…

It seems odd that as a society it's been deemed a-okay to pathologize a cluster of traits shared by 30% of the population.

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Post by dijit »

nsagent wrote: post #99
dijit wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's likely a definitive example of selection bias, you won't hear people not talking about having it, but ADHD affects (approximately) 30% of the population. Assuming even a tiny amount of those are loud when exploring their discovery would mean a lot of people talking about it online. This is likely also combined with Millennials (my cohort at least) being one of the most self-aware generational cohorts in history…

It seems odd that as a society it's been deemed a-okay to pathologize a cluster of traits shared by 30% of the population.

We as a society seem to enjoy doing that.

Half of the population are provably on a different circadian rhythm than the other half, but we force everyone to function only one way.

There’s a dozen more examples, related to psychiatry and medicine.

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