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“Vibe Coding” vs. Reality

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Re: “Vibe Coding” vs. Reality

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post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

the next version of AI will simply make it into a bigger mess.

Now, now, not with this mindset. You have to ask the Ai to fix the mess, and if it doesn't, try again!

AIUI one should be sure to include a grandmother dying if that div doesn't get centered

Re: “Vibe Coding” vs. Reality

#92
This is the go community saying a computer will never best human go players.

We already have examples of a model finding more performant sorts [0], given the right incentives and time, and the right system for optimizing (LLMs trained on “average code” probably aren’t it) the computer will best us at creating things for the computer.

Is “vibe coding” real today? Not in my experience, with even Claude code. My hand has to be firmly on the tiller, using my experience and skill to correct its mistakes and guide it. But I can see the current trajectory of improvement, and I’m sure it’ll get there.

[0] https://deepmind.google/discover/blog/alphadev-discovers-fas...

Re: “Vibe Coding” vs. Reality

#93

The biggest give-away is: When you look at the companies making these claims and their jobs page shows they are actively hiring developers.

Not to mention the fact that those training clusters are not going to supervise themselves (or, maybe I just think that because I haven't had enough koolaid; where's the AWS Console MCP endpoint?)

Re: “Vibe Coding” vs. Reality

#94
post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

the next version of AI will simply make it into a bigger mess.

Now, now, not with this mindset. You have to ask the Ai to fix the mess, and if it doesn't, try again!

As if the person struggling with the mess will have the requisite skill levels to even recognise a mess!

Re: “Vibe Coding” vs. Reality

#95
Making the arguing that these tools have flaws seem like a losing battle. Soon those flaws will be fixed[1] and youll have to find new flaws to complain about. Eventually hopefully you'll realize that you just don't like feeling displaced.

[1] it's unbelievable what a difference in quality 1 year made for chat gpt

Re: “Vibe Coding” vs. Reality

#96

I mean shouldn't Jensen be shitting his pants about this? Vibe code the CUDA away and bye bye margins ?

That one would be extra awesome because by the time anyone realized there was some subtle stats bug in the resulting kernels, it'd have vaporized $10MM in cloud training opex

Re: “Vibe Coding” vs. Reality

#97
Vibe coding is my favourite fad so far. Much like the last few fads I’m going to make so much money out of cleaning up afterwards it’s unreal.

Really this whole industry is on another fucking planet. I hate it but it’s so easy to make money.

Re: “Vibe Coding” vs. Reality

#98
post #80

My, very limited experience with LLM assisted coding is that it depends... For basic frameworks done in something like Python it is very good, but not perfect, yet. But the iteration cycle to get to where you want to be is still faster than doing the whole job manually and I see this as a big win. For more esoteric fast changing languages/frameworks it has me chasing my tail in a chain of code updates where each fix…

"But it will get better, a lot better."

I see statements like this a lot when talking about AI in general. People seem to think it is a foregone conclusion that no limit to LLM model improvement and capability exists. What causes you to believe this and what evidence do you have to back it up?

Re: “Vibe Coding” vs. Reality

#99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah but AI coding does speed up some simple tasks. Sometimes by a lot. But we have to endure these tedious self-congratulatory "mwa ha well it's still not as good as my code" posts. No shit. Nobody is saying AI can write a web browser or a compiler or even many far simpler things. But it can do some very simple things like making basic websites. And sure it gets a lot of stuff wrong and you have to correct it, or fi…

> This post feels like complaining about cruise control because it isn't level 5 autonomy. It's nothing like that, because cruise control works reliably . There is never a situation where cruise control randomly starts going 90mph or 10mph while I have it set to 60mph. LLMs on the other hand... This is why I disagree with people who argue (as you did) "it really does speed up simple tasks". No it doesn't, because eve…

I hear you, and actually agree, but never say "never," because it's still just a machine https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=toyota+stuck+cruise+control...

Re: “Vibe Coding” vs. Reality

#100

> Cursor has some sort of "concise mode" (archived) that they'll turn on when there is high load where the model will still be rated at the normal price but behaves in a useless manner. This mode will omit details, drop important findings, and corrupt the output that is being produced. This is a real problem that I have experienced on and off. It's getting to the point where everyone on my team is actively looking fo…

> Generally, I've found Cursor works correctly after business hours.

Interestingly the times I've experienced the most weirdness were during extremely not normal business hours (from the California perspective). For 3 nights in a row last week, I found myself coding at/after 2:30am during what were apparently periods of excessive load on Claude Sonnet. When asking Cursor to do things, it would fail, tell me about the high load, and encourage me to try again soon. Well, I just kept clicking the button over and over again, thinking it would eventually be able to handle the request properly, and otherwise continue presenting the error. Not the case!

Incorrect/hilarious things Cursor/Claude did at points during those nights:

- repeat the inquiry back to me in full, then do nothing at all after that

- confidently assert it had located the bug I was looking for, then direct me towards the entire codebase

- assert that it had done what I asked, and request that I approve the changes it wanted to make to my code, which were... nothing, none whatsoever

- (possibly the most hilarious) begin to answer questions in borderline leetspeak, randomly substituting numbers in place of letters in words, before eventually devolving into total gibberish

Mostly just annoying due to the wasted time, though it's possible the entertainment value negated it. I don't expect miracles from Cursor to begin with, nor do I give it wide latitude to change very much in my projects, so the risk of damage wasn't really any worse then than at any other time. Of course, I am not a team working against deadlines on critical projects, just a guy screwing around at 2:30am.

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