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Monster Cables picked the wrong guy to threaten (2008)

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Re: Monster Cables picked the wrong guy to threaten (2008)

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Monster Cables is a name I hadn't thought about in ages... I mostly remember them as the company that tried to convince people that digital images would look better via a more expensive cable.

Well, there is now some truth to it. For example, low quality HDMI cable will may be only good enough for low bandwidth, that would limit refresh rate, and/or color fidelity (e.g. chroma subsampling) and/or resolution. So yea, “digital” cables are not immune to signal integrity issues, and better cables do perform better. I understand that monster takes this to the next level of bullshit — but in principle, yes, more…

Speaking of high quality "Monstrous Cables" and draconian legal remedies: there's K. W. Jeter's Noir (1998), a Cyberpunk novel whose detective protagonist's main job is killing copyright violators so that their still-living spinal cords may be incorporated into hi-fi system cables:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15668069

DonHopkins on Nov 10, 2017 | parent | context | favorite | on: Electric Sheep on Ubuntu Linux 17.10

I deserve to be downvoted by the literature snobs, but if you liked Blade Runner the movie (and who in their right mind doesn't?), then you may very well enjoy K. W. Jeter's three written sequels to the MOVIE Blade Runner (not the BOOK DADOES), "Blade Runner 2: The Edge of Human", "Blade Runner 3: Replicant Night", and "Blade Runner 4: Eye and Talon". There is no book "Blade Runner 1" -- that's the movie.

The irony is that Philip K Dick was offered a whole lot of money to write another book entitled "Blade Runner" based on the screenplay of the movie, but he insisted on maintaining the integrity and title of his original book DADOES by re-issuing it with a reference to the (quite different) movie on the cover, instead of rewriting another book called "Blade Runner" based on the movie based on his own book. (Harrumph!) He would have made a lot more money by selling out that way, but he steadfastly refused to do it.

However, fortunately for us, after his death, his friend and fellow SF writer K. W. Jeter (who also wrote an excellent cyberpunk novel Dr. Adder which Dick loved) sold out on his behalf and wrote those three books based on the movie (which referenced famous lines like "Wake up. Time to die!").

They explore the question of what the fuck happened after they went flying off into the wilderness (that unused footage from The Shining), and whether Decker was a replicant. (Who would have guessed??!)

So even though they're not written by PKD, or directly based on his original all time great book, and not as authentic and mentally twisted as a real PKD book, they are still pretty excellent and twisted in their own right, and well worth reading. They're based on an excellent movie based on an epic book, and written by a friend and author PKD respected, who's written some other excellent books.

And while you're at it, check out Dr. Adder and K. W. Jeter's other books too! Especially Noire, for its hi-fi cables made out of the still-living spinal columns of copyright violators. (I suggest you buy a copy and don't pirate it!)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blade_Runner_2:_The_Edge_of_Hu...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blade_Runner_3:_Replicant_Nigh...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blade_Runner_4:_Eye_and_Talon

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K._W._Jeter

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Adder

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noir_(novel)

http://www.indiewire.com/2015/12/watch-u-s-theatrical-ending...

http://www.sf-encyclopedia.com/entry/jeter_k_w

Jeter's most significant sf may lie in the thematic trilogy comprising Dr Adder (1984) – his first novel (written 1972), long left unpublished because of its sometimes turgid violence – The Glass Hammer (1985) and Death Arms (1987); Alligator Alley (1989) as by Dr Adder with Mink Mole (see Ferret) is a distant outrider to the sequence. Philip K Dick had read Dr Adder in manuscript and for years advocated it; and it is clear why. Though the novel clearly prefigures the under-soil airlessness of the best urban Cyberpunk, it even more clearly serves as a bridge between the defiant reality-testing Paranoia of Dick's characters and the doomed realpolitiking of the surrendered souls who dwell in post-1984 urban sprawls (see Cities). In each of these convoluted tales, set in a devastated Somme-like Near-Future America, Jeter's characters seem to vacillate between the sf traditions of resistance and cyberpunk quietism. In worlds like these, the intermittent flashes of sf imagery or content are unlasting consolations.

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Much of his later work has consisted of Sharecrop contributions to various proprietorial worlds, including Alien Nation, Star Trek, Star Wars [for titles see Checklist]; of some interest in this output are his Ties – they are also in a sense Sequels by Another Hand – to the film Blade Runner (1982), comprising Blade Runner 2: The Edge of Human (1995), Blade Runner 3: Replicant Night (1996) and Blade Runner 4: Eye & Talon (2000), and making use of some original Philip K Dick material. The sense of ebbing enthusiasm generated by these various Ties is not markedly altered by Jeter's most recent singleton, Noir (1998), a Cyberpunk novel whose detective protagonist's main job is killing copyright violators so that their still-living spinal cords may be incorporated into hi-fi system cables; the irreality of this concept, and the bad-joke names that proliferate throughout, are somewhat stiffened up by the constant interactive presence of the already dead, a Philip K Dick effect, as filtered through Jeter's own intensely florid sensibility. [JC]

Re: Monster Cables picked the wrong guy to threaten (2008)

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I was once co-head of a tech company that had an "i" in the title. Like a bajillion other companies our logo was basically just the company's name in a particular font and we turned the dot above the "i" into a little circle in a different colour. So far so not very surprising.

A few months in we got a cease-and-desist from a company who claimed (and I'm not making this up) to have a trademark on the idea of making the dot of an "i" into a little circle in a different colour, and said that the trade dress of our logo was infringing because their logo was just their company name in a (different) font with the dot on the "i" being a circle in a different colour.

I wrote back and asked them to clarify that it was their contention that that was a trademark and making it very clear I would fight it and we had no intention of changing anything. They disappeared.

It's really important not to feed this nonsense by caving to the trolls.

Re: Monster Cables picked the wrong guy to threaten (2008)

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if anyone wants to block the annoying troll spammer that invaded hackernews today, please put this rule on your personal filters on ublock origin: ##.comtr.athing:has-text('bschmidt')

Seems someone thinks they're being super clever when really they're just childish and annoying. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Re: Monster Cables picked the wrong guy to threaten (2008)

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I used to be the webmaster for my parent's HOA[0], and I bought their .com domain name when it became available (a realtor had owned it originally). They eventually hired a firm to run the site, and I pointed the domain at their nameservers, and forgot about it (paying the ~$20/year in renewals, because that's not a lot of money & I have fond memories of living there). 15 years later, I get a registered letter from a…

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> If you are willing to type this up for karma

If I cared about HN karma, I'd just post "why not Rust?" on every Go post, and "why not Go?" on every Rust post.

> why wouldn't you just tell the lawyer this or contact the current webmaster

Because the lawyer was trying to scare me with nonsensical legal threats. I'm not interested in helping people who threaten me with legal action.

> your retelling just seems really petty.

It was supposed to – I was replying to someone who wrote, "I wish all companies took such an approach. You catch more flies with honey" – they tried to "catch" me with vinegar, and I don't have a taste for it.

Re: Monster Cables picked the wrong guy to threaten (2008)

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What happened? This is reporting on the first round but I can't find a follow-up on how things went. Did Caterpillar back down or did Cat and Cloud lose their apparel trademark?

A quick google seems to indicate that they are still doing business under that same name. https://catandcloud.com/

Yah but it was only the apparel side that Caterpillar threatened, so they may have won or given up and stopped selling clothes. Looking at their online store they don't have anything with Cat printed on it right now.

Re: Monster Cables picked the wrong guy to threaten (2008)

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Hadn't seen this before. What a nicely written letter. Explained why they have to do this, outlined a reasonable action step, and even offer to help said action. Moreover, it didn't contain a single threat. I wish all companies took such an approach. You catch more flies with honey, and all that.

I used to be the webmaster for my parent's HOA[0], and I bought their .com domain name when it became available (a realtor had owned it originally). They eventually hired a firm to run the site, and I pointed the domain at their nameservers, and forgot about it (paying the ~$20/year in renewals, because that's not a lot of money & I have fond memories of living there). 15 years later, I get a registered letter from a…

I think I speak for a lot of people when I say I’m disappointed you didn’t end up extracting a couple thousand dollars from the HOA.

Then again, maybe there’s less hate for HOA’s here than in other spaces. This is typical HOA behavior!

Re: Monster Cables picked the wrong guy to threaten (2008)

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> Once I patiently explained that a cable shouldn't matter for digital as long as the bits got there . Emphasis mine. As someone that sold AV equipment, including cables, in the late ‘00s / early ‘10s, nerds that misunderstood the nuances of this were the single worst group of customers to work with. You could see them coming a mile away. By the time “gold-plated HDMI cables are a scam” gets down to their level of ps…

I wish HDMI would die as a standard. The TV folk won't that happen though, controlling HDMI allows them to control the ecosystem by extension. Would be nice if the EU could step in an make DisplayPort the required connection and protocol like they did for the USB-C port for charging.

> Would be nice if the EU could step in an make DisplayPort the required connection and protocol like they did for the USB-C port for charging.

We had it, it was called SCART.

Re: Monster Cables picked the wrong guy to threaten (2008)

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> If you are willing to type this up for karma If I cared about HN karma, I'd just post "why not Rust?" on every Go post, and "why not Go?" on every Rust post. > why wouldn't you just tell the lawyer this or contact the current webmaster Because the lawyer was trying to scare me with nonsensical legal threats. I'm not interested in helping people who threaten me with legal action. > your retelling just seems really p…

I, personally, thank you for sharing. I come here for news and anecdotes from smart and interesting people, as I perceive HN crowd.

Your story entertained me in my Saturday morning and I’m grateful you decided to do so.

Re: Monster Cables picked the wrong guy to threaten (2008)

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Previously, monster cable vs. using a coat hanger for a speaker wire. https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-e&channel=ent...

The reviews on the cables in question (Blue Jeans Cable) are wild. https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/RYLMXICLLSJWC?ASI... "Music was much more open with plenty of air around the instruments. Imaging was superb - greatly improved over previous cables that I used. The depth was substantially improved with great instrumental recognition from front to rear. In other words, the speakers managed to disappear and o…

Say what you want about audiophiles, one of their skills is definitely written expression (at least for a non native).

Re: Monster Cables picked the wrong guy to threaten (2008)

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> Monster's counsel had made a horrible mistake, and probably caused lasting harm to the company, by sending me that ridiculous letter This sort of thing always reminds of the Jack Daniels cease and desist letter[0], which, at least for me, had the exact opposite effect. 0. https://brokenpianoforpresident.wordpress.com/2012/07/19/jac...

Seems like he's still using their design on the ebook on amazon all these years later.

It now resembles a different bottle (with the blessing of the manufacturer): https://mashable.com/archive/jack-daniels-rejection-letter-g...
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