Who is getting paid
Proceeds will be donated to the center of Google Kids Who Can't Read Good.
Google to pay $28M to settle claims it favoured white and Asian employees
91–100 of 156 posts
Re: Google to pay $28M to settle claims it favoured white and Asian employees
#92Earlier quoted context omitted.
The people who are running the diversity stuff at Google when I was there were very "Eye-for-an-eye". Some dumb stuff that happened while I was at Google: * There was a ERG for literally every single race except White people. "Just join one of the others" was what they told me. * During an onboarding learning exercise because I was merely showing initiative before the rest of the group. "Ok everyone here's my idea".…
> There was a ERG for literally every single race except White people. "Just join one of the others" was what they told me. Imagine moving to say, Switzerland, to work for a massive corporation. 90% of the employees are Swiss. The other 10% come from a smattering of other countries from around the world. To help those employees acclimate to a new culture and find support, the company sponsors country-based ERGs. Of c…
Straight white men, or even just white people, is in no way the "default" at Google, and very far from the 90% in your allegory.
Re: Google to pay $28M to settle claims it favoured white and Asian employees
#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
The people who are running the diversity stuff at Google when I was there were very "Eye-for-an-eye". Some dumb stuff that happened while I was at Google: * There was a ERG for literally every single race except White people. "Just join one of the others" was what they told me. * During an onboarding learning exercise because I was merely showing initiative before the rest of the group. "Ok everyone here's my idea".…
> There was a ERG for literally every single race except White people. "Just join one of the others" was what they told me. Imagine moving to say, Switzerland, to work for a massive corporation. 90% of the employees are Swiss. The other 10% come from a smattering of other countries from around the world. To help those employees acclimate to a new culture and find support, the company sponsors country-based ERGs. Of c…
> Of course, there is no Swiss ERG, as it's the "default"
Switzerland is a country of three dominant languages. When I worked for a Swiss bank, they had internal groups for, essentially, domestic expats.
Re: Google to pay $28M to settle claims it favoured white and Asian employees
#94[dead]
Re: Google to pay $28M to settle claims it favoured white and Asian employees
#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
As a white man who used to work for G: > There was a ERG for literally every single race except White people. "Just join one of the others" was what they told me. What would an ERG for white people even do? What would you want from it? > Nonwhite employees in my org also got a special mentor who helped them get a leg-up in the company. There are general mentorship programs, too. Usually focused on career development.…
“ What would an ERG for white people even do? What would you want from it?” What do other groups get? Support, networking, mentorship probably. A lot of white people could use that help too.
> Support, networking, mentorship
I get plenty of that elsewhere. Do you have issues finding support, networking events, and mentorship programs?
ERGs specifically tend to group those generic, open-to-all programs together and add another layer of `navigating the workplace as [insert ERG demographic]` that doesn't really make sense if you insert "white man".
Re: Google to pay $28M to settle claims it favoured white and Asian employees
#96Earlier quoted context omitted.
Side rant. Cut the Latinx crap please, Latinos don't really feel represented by the force-fed "inclusive" name that straight up goes against their gendered languages. It's overriding the language to seem more inclusive in English
On the one hand, this is linguistically correct… if we were speaking Spanish. As we're not actually using real Spanish, such criticisms feel to me like objecting to the way Star Trek dares to boldly split infinitives that have never been split before on the basis that Latin (the language) didn't split them — Latin couldn't split infinitives because infinitives in Latin are single words, just as the -x suffix to denot…
> this is linguistically correct… if we were speaking Spanish
That the linguistically correct in both English and Spanish (and other Latin-derivative languages) term “Latin” got passed over in favour of Latinx sort of speaks to the motivations of those who pushed it.
Re: Google to pay $28M to settle claims it favoured white and Asian employees
#97Earlier quoted context omitted.
By the same numbers "Latinx+" are actually over-represented at Google and white people underrepresented. Neither by a large amount though. With how close the numbers actually are I wonder if the different biases of different HR people and hiring managers actually cancelled out pretty well.
Side rant. Cut the Latinx crap please, Latinos don't really feel represented by the force-fed "inclusive" name that straight up goes against their gendered languages. It's overriding the language to seem more inclusive in English
Just to be clear on this one: are you Latino? Why do you speak for them? I have latino friends who insist on that language, some who don't give a fuck, and latinx friends who own that jab at the patriarchal idea of forcing gender on genderless objects or groups.
Put another way: The NAACP didn't change their name, but if you called most black folk I know "colored" they'd punch you in the throat. Language is fluid and all that.
So again I ask: Why the generalization on how a whole mish mosh of people feel.
Re: Google to pay $28M to settle claims it favoured white and Asian employees
#98Earlier quoted context omitted.
Fun fact: You can almost always score at least $10-20k if you're fired from a job if you try hard enough. I've been on the employer side of this... you fire someone who's performing badly, and then they come back 4 months later and sue the company for [insert made up thing here]. In our case, an ex-employee is suing us for not accommodating an anxiety and migraine disability, which they never disclosed and never requ…
It works, but court cases are public record. Good luck getting anyone to touch you with a ten foot pole afterwards, not like the candidate can prove why they weren't selected.
So HR pays to check this for every candidate? No wonder it's hard to get hired.
Re: Google to pay $28M to settle claims it favoured white and Asian employees
#99Earlier quoted context omitted.
The people who are running the diversity stuff at Google when I was there were very "Eye-for-an-eye". Some dumb stuff that happened while I was at Google: * There was a ERG for literally every single race except White people. "Just join one of the others" was what they told me. * During an onboarding learning exercise because I was merely showing initiative before the rest of the group. "Ok everyone here's my idea".…
As a white man who used to work for G: > There was a ERG for literally every single race except White people. "Just join one of the others" was what they told me. What would an ERG for white people even do? What would you want from it? > Nonwhite employees in my org also got a special mentor who helped them get a leg-up in the company. There are general mentorship programs, too. Usually focused on career development.…
I’m uninitiated to this concept and not white
and I’m scratching my head about why these same questions arent asked for “employee resource groups” of other minority “themes”
as well as why the ability to empathise is so apparent for those other themes but not so easily imagined for this person who is white
forgot the EEOC, I’m about to go to the SEC Whistleblower bounty program since shareholders might want to know how misguided the population there is
Re: Google to pay $28M to settle claims it favoured white and Asian employees
#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
On the one hand, this is linguistically correct… if we were speaking Spanish. As we're not actually using real Spanish, such criticisms feel to me like objecting to the way Star Trek dares to boldly split infinitives that have never been split before on the basis that Latin (the language) didn't split them — Latin couldn't split infinitives because infinitives in Latin are single words, just as the -x suffix to denot…
> this is linguistically correct… if we were speaking Spanish That the linguistically correct in both English and Spanish (and other Latin-derivative languages) term “Latin” got passed over in favour of Latinx sort of speaks to the motivations of those who pushed it.
"Latin" is a demonym in Spanish?
Huh. Well, I repeat the point about my Spanish language (lack of) skill.
(At time of writing Spanish is not listed on https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/latin or https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Latin, but I don't know how complete that dictionary is).