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Tesla Hate Is Making Insurance More Expensive for Owners

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Re: Tesla Hate Is Making Insurance More Expensive for Owners

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Post by louthy »

joecot wrote: post #41
boznz wrote: post #18

Might effect new buyers decisions I guess, but since about 99% of Tesla's were sold to green, left-leaning buyers, before the Elon hate-fest, I am not sure how targeting that group of people for your hatred is helping any "cause".

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> I feel bad for the people who bought Teslas before everyone knew who he really was

He bought Twitter in 2022 and it’s arguable that his true colours have been on display since then.

But it was also clear much earlier for those paying attention [1]

[1] https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/jul/15/elon-musk...

Re: Tesla Hate Is Making Insurance More Expensive for Owners

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Post by milesrout »

lovich wrote: post #53
assimpleaspossi wrote: post #45

The Tesla, last I read about and test drove one, is a great car. Why tear at a company that makes a great car over anyone's political preferences? The phrase "shooting oneself in the foot" comes to mind. It makes no sense whatsoever.

>Why tear at a company that makes a great car over anyone's political preferences? With how our society is set up, you are suggesting not holding any political viewpoints or preferences. I had a whole diatribe typed up that I deleted because I realized I cannot actually empathize or have a theory of mind for how you could think this was an acceptable way to live life. Do you silo every interaction you have with every…

He is suggesting the opposite. Attacking every company run by someone you disagree with politically is a recipe for not being able to participate in society in any meaningful way. Musk's views are quite normal and are shared by people involved in every company and institution out there. Are you going to boycott them all?

These boycotts only work as isolated, selective outrage. It is the same with countries. If you wanted to be consistent, you'd have to boycott every country in the world. They all do some bad things.

Re: Tesla Hate Is Making Insurance More Expensive for Owners

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Post by milesrout »

kerkeslager wrote: post #64
assimpleaspossi wrote: post #45

The Tesla, last I read about and test drove one, is a great car. Why tear at a company that makes a great car over anyone's political preferences? The phrase "shooting oneself in the foot" comes to mind. It makes no sense whatsoever.

Because some of us don't want our money to go to Nazism. That's not crazy, it's basic ethical behavior.

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Re: Tesla Hate Is Making Insurance More Expensive for Owners

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Post by supportengineer »

assimpleaspossi wrote: post #45

The Tesla, last I read about and test drove one, is a great car. Why tear at a company that makes a great car over anyone's political preferences? The phrase "shooting oneself in the foot" comes to mind. It makes no sense whatsoever.

Because buying the car essentially gives money to Adolf Hitler. Do you not see that?

Re: Tesla Hate Is Making Insurance More Expensive for Owners

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Post by libertine »

boznz wrote: post #18

Might effect new buyers decisions I guess, but since about 99% of Tesla's were sold to green, left-leaning buyers, before the Elon hate-fest, I am not sure how targeting that group of people for your hatred is helping any "cause".

> before the Elon hate-fest

Let me ask this: maybe, just maybe, it was before Elon went politically to far right and started cater to Russia, and to try reabilitated Nazism with actions and History revisionism?

I mean, when we saw Putin try to get Hitler off the hook and blame Poland for WW2, it was kind of expected, not only because Putin finances Neo Nazis all over the world, but because it suits his current agenda.

Now when Elon is doing it, it doesn't look weird to you? It's just the "hate-fest" maybe...

Re: Tesla Hate Is Making Insurance More Expensive for Owners

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Post by outer_web »

dgfitz wrote: post #70
TheAlchemist wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's the funny thing here. In case of Musk, if those protests work and as you say 'the jig is up', he can go from the richest man on earth to bankrupt in a space of months. He is very 'cash poor' and has pledged a lot of Tesla shares as collateral to fund his other businesses. If Tesla is priced as an automaker (shares would be in the ±10-20$), Musk will be bankrupt.

> Musk will be bankrupt. Then what? “We win” somehow? Nailed it? Who cares?

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Re: Tesla Hate Is Making Insurance More Expensive for Owners

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Post by milesrout »

n4r9 wrote: post #76
renewiltord wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is unequivocally terrorism to participate in violence against civilians with the aim of causing political change. And it's domestic because it's here. It's definitionally correct.

Spray painting Teslas is not "violence against civilians". Even setting fire to them in a showroom is debatable if it's at night when no one's about.

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Re: Tesla Hate Is Making Insurance More Expensive for Owners

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Post by supportengineer »

milesrout wrote: post #92
lovich wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Why tear at a company that makes a great car over anyone's political preferences? With how our society is set up, you are suggesting not holding any political viewpoints or preferences. I had a whole diatribe typed up that I deleted because I realized I cannot actually empathize or have a theory of mind for how you could think this was an acceptable way to live life. Do you silo every interaction you have with every…

He is suggesting the opposite. Attacking every company run by someone you disagree with politically is a recipe for not being able to participate in society in any meaningful way. Musk's views are quite normal and are shared by people involved in every company and institution out there. Are you going to boycott them all? These boycotts only work as isolated, selective outrage. It is the same with countries. If you wa…

>> Musk's views are quite normal

Citation please

Re: Tesla Hate Is Making Insurance More Expensive for Owners

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Post by qwerpy »

lovich wrote: post #53
assimpleaspossi wrote: post #45

The Tesla, last I read about and test drove one, is a great car. Why tear at a company that makes a great car over anyone's political preferences? The phrase "shooting oneself in the foot" comes to mind. It makes no sense whatsoever.

>Why tear at a company that makes a great car over anyone's political preferences? With how our society is set up, you are suggesting not holding any political viewpoints or preferences. I had a whole diatribe typed up that I deleted because I realized I cannot actually empathize or have a theory of mind for how you could think this was an acceptable way to live life. Do you silo every interaction you have with every…

Having political viewpoints is fine. Protesting at their showrooms is fine. Making purchasing decisions for yourself based on your political viewpoints, also fine.

Punishing people (vandalism, scrawling Nazi symbols, hostile/threatening interactions on the road) for owning a brand of car and not sharing your viewpoints is not fine.

Re: Tesla Hate Is Making Insurance More Expensive for Owners

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Post by yks »

assimpleaspossi wrote: post #45

The Tesla, last I read about and test drove one, is a great car. Why tear at a company that makes a great car over anyone's political preferences? The phrase "shooting oneself in the foot" comes to mind. It makes no sense whatsoever.

It's just a car bro. No one is "shooting oneself in the foot" by not owning Tesla of all things.
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