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Pirate Bay co-founder Carl Lundström has died

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Re: Pirate Bay co-founder Carl Lundström has died

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Post by walterbell »

dagw wrote: post #48
ghuntley wrote: post #43

We just lost another Aaron Swartz. Without Carl, there would have been no https://prq.se/ . Without Pauraque, there would be no WikiLeaks, Pirate Bay and a host of other big things that fundamentally shaped the world. Shit, governments were toppled.

Do you think Carl's life long political activism outside of hosting TPB should be taken into account when deciding whether to compare him Aaron Swartz or not? Or do you think that his actions with TPB where so noble and important that it outweighs anything else he might have done before and after?

We don't have text quotas, no need to weigh.

Multiple discussion threads can exist, for praise or critique.

Ideally, such threads would avoid derailing each other by focusing on specific actions, consequences or legacies.

Re: Pirate Bay co-founder Carl Lundström has died

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Post by zaphirplane »

marcusverus wrote: post #61
dagw wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you consider using your inherited wealth to bankroll white nationalist political candidates also part of the "true hacker spirit". Carl may have been part of TPB for a small part of his life, but his true life long passion and calling was always first and foremost to be a dedicated and passionate white nationalist.

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How is that not racism

Re: Pirate Bay co-founder Carl Lundström has died

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Post by zaphirplane »

marcusverus wrote: post #84
timkam wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The historic reality begs to differ: Sweden covers large parts of the traditional homelands of non-Swedish people. Current reality differs as well, obviously. No matter how you twist it and turn it, the argument can only make sense for a hypothetical, geographically smaller Sweden that does not exist.

> Sweden covers large parts of the traditional homelands of non-Swedish people. How does this lead to the conclusion that Swedish ethno-nationalism is bad?

They as others are making the point that racism is bad, you keep justifying it because Swedish people are white

Re: Pirate Bay co-founder Carl Lundström has died

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Post by timkam »

marcusverus wrote: post #84
timkam wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The historic reality begs to differ: Sweden covers large parts of the traditional homelands of non-Swedish people. Current reality differs as well, obviously. No matter how you twist it and turn it, the argument can only make sense for a hypothetical, geographically smaller Sweden that does not exist.

> Sweden covers large parts of the traditional homelands of non-Swedish people. How does this lead to the conclusion that Swedish ethno-nationalism is bad?

In the ethno-nationalistic sense, Sweden is not a nation state. In its current reality, Sweden is ethnically diverse and it (partially) covers the homelands of several peoples/"nations" in the ethno-nationalistic sense. The latter issue could, e.g., be solved by giving up most of what the Swedes in the South call Norrland. This would deplete "Sweden" of natural resources and make it even more dependent on high-skilled immigration to ensure that at least the tech industry industry in the somewhat larger cities keeps running.

Re: Pirate Bay co-founder Carl Lundström has died

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Post by southernplaces7 »

zaphirplane wrote: post #92
marcusverus wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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How is that not racism

By this logic I suppose you would also be opposed to black power movements or certain African nationalist tendencies? White is more than just one bland, interchangeably generic ethnicity/race. It's hundreds of millions of people of many ethnicities and they have no less right to celebrate these cultural roots than anyone else. It's a shame to see so many of them cheaply labeled as white nationalist ergo Nazis even if they might have fuck all to do with racist fascism.

Re: Pirate Bay co-founder Carl Lundström has died

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Post by southernplaces7 »

>The propeller plane split into two after crashing into a wooden cabin in the Velika Planina mountain

Had to laugh at this though. "Velika Planina", the incredibly original name for this mountain means "Big Mountain" in Serbo Croatian and slovenian. The news article basically said "Big Mountain mountain".

Re: Pirate Bay co-founder Carl Lundström has died

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Post by GardenLetter27 »

vlovich123 wrote: post #35
GardenLetter27 wrote: post #21

He provided ISP services, he wasn't exactly a co-founder. The TPB AFK documentary is quite good about the trial. Crazy that they got harsher sentences than a lot of rapists in Sweden - like the guy who got only 14 months and then received ~$80k USD from the government: https://www.riksdagen.se/sv/dokument-och-lagar/dokument/skri...

> In 2018, he was sentenced, together with his accomplice, to pay half a million kronor in damages to the two women he helped rape. But since he could not pay any damages, it was instead the taxpayers who were forced to pay it for him. This is what the plaintiff's lawyer for one of the two raped women tells Samnytt. So the first issue was that the government stepped in to give his victims money. I hope that the gover…

It's worse though - that it turned out his documents were falsified and he lied about his age - https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/a/JxGBa4/felet-i-bevisnin...

So he had fraudulently received that money too.

Re: Pirate Bay co-founder Carl Lundström has died

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Post by marcusverus »

timkam wrote: post #94
marcusverus wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Sweden covers large parts of the traditional homelands of non-Swedish people. How does this lead to the conclusion that Swedish ethno-nationalism is bad?

In the ethno-nationalistic sense, Sweden is not a nation state. In its current reality, Sweden is ethnically diverse and it (partially) covers the homelands of several peoples/"nations" in the ethno-nationalistic sense. The latter issue could, e.g., be solved by giving up most of what the Swedes in the South call Norrland. This would deplete "Sweden" of natural resources and make it even more dependent on high-skille…

If Sweden isn't Swedish because ~30k Sami live there, then China isn't Chinese because 50K Uzbeks live there. You're not arguing that Sweden isn't a nation-state, you're arguing that nation states don't exist, which is just silly.
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