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The DOJ still wants Google to sell off Chrome

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Re: The DOJ still wants Google to sell off Chrome

#92

Regardless of what happens to Chrome per se it's who is involved with pushing for major controversial changes in Chromium that matters. Manifest v3 and Web Integrity API are prominent examples of Google's team shaping how all Chromium based browsers will be, regardless of pushback (though they relented with the latter for now).

Manifest v3 is not even breaking any standards. This is like saying Google should not make any changes to their browser as any forks will not be able to maintain any divergence. All forks are free to keep manifest v2. Off course maintaining a browser is expensive, but that doesn't mean Google has to foot the bill for everyone and everything.

Re: The DOJ still wants Google to sell off Chrome

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Can Google just "donate" Chrome to a foundation like a lot of big companies do to deal with this? Maybe we'll soon have Apache Chrome!

There is no foundation with the budget to even maintain a web browser, let alone keep developing. If Google is not footing the bill then Safari will become the torch bearer, and Apple has no incentive to make Safari become more capable to threaten that sweet IAP revenue.

Re: The DOJ still wants Google to sell off Chrome

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post #91

All that rather pathetic grovelling and kowtowing to Trump, for naught.

They’re still getting a friendlier NLRB, lower corporate tax rates, and an economic policy that is less focused on full employment; tamping down engineering wage growth

Re: The DOJ still wants Google to sell off Chrome

#95

This is the absolutely dumbest thing that I have read. Who would buy Chrome and why? If you just want the codebase, you have Chromium. Chrome only monetizes because of ads. Then what happens to Chromebooks? Can Google no longer ship a browser with Android? Besides, unless you have an Android - which is only 30% of the US market or a Chromebook, everyone who uses Chrome went through the process of downloading it and m…

It is dumb and the comments here are baffling. People are blaming Google for forks not being able to keep up. Like forks can be based on webkit or gecko if they don't like Google. Both Apple and MSFT are far far more closed in all their products where they have any inertia. Yet Google gets the flame mostly because of their incompetent PR and legal execution. Case in point Google got flamed here so much for dragonfly, while Bing keeps running in China and even sometimes by mistake or not applies Chinese sensors to the rest of the world. The sacred Apple also works in China following all their laws. But Google is worse than both just for attempting dragonfly.

Re: The DOJ still wants Google to sell off Chrome

#96
A company owning a web browser isn't the problem. A company owning a web browser, OS and search engine shouldn't be a problem either. I don't know why the remedy can't actually address the problem, and the DOJ can't move more quickly to address antitrust across the industry. This feels like randomly cutting a baby in half, while the rest of the thieves, even those in the same family, are not deterred.

Re: The DOJ still wants Google to sell off Chrome

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can't speak for Safari, but Firefox has never been anything but a dumpster fire for me. Constant reminders about updates and a UI that slows my computer to a crawl no matter what I do. Yes, I open many tabs and don't use a turbocharged laptop, but the same applies to my Chrome use with next to no problems, so really, fuck you Firefox for not adjusting after decades, as per possible user needs. Chrome seems to manage…

Either you need to service your computer or configure your Firefox. I went back to Firefox about 5 years ago and not even once missed Chrome since.

Why should the user need to do that? The browser should automatically configure itself for optimal performance on any reasonable hardware.

Re: The DOJ still wants Google to sell off Chrome

#99

> The Justice Department also kept a Biden-era proposal that seeks to ban Google from paying companies like Apple, other smartphone manufacturers and Mozilla to make its search engine the default on their phones and browsers. RIP Firefox?

If chrome is no longer owned by Google I'll use it. That's the reason I switched to firefox in the first place.

Re: The DOJ still wants Google to sell off Chrome

#100

> The Justice Department also kept a Biden-era proposal that seeks to ban Google from paying companies like Apple, other smartphone manufacturers and Mozilla to make its search engine the default on their phones and browsers. RIP Firefox?

Firefox will be just fine. Mozilla CEO bonuses however...
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