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The NBA Apple Vision Pro app now has a 3D tabletop view

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Re: The NBA Apple Vision Pro app now has a 3D tabletop view

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Post by rs186 »

crooked-v wrote: post #52
kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They have that now in movie theaters that simulcast stage performances.

Sure, but there's a huge visceral difference between looking at a screen versus "being there" in what your brain interprets as, for example, a small black-box theater with a stage in the middle.

Yes there is a big difference.

But if you look at all the options --

1) paying hundred of dollars or more, potentially having to travel to a different city to watch the actual event, where you enjoy it with friends/family and the rest of the crowd

2) watch a filmed version in the theater or Blu-ray for $10, with your family/friends and other fans

3) purchase a $3500 headset that is heavy and uncomfortable, watch a filmed version for $10-20, with yourself

The movie theater experience seems like a pretty good deal. If I am not watch the real thing, I might as well just spend $10 and get a great experience.

Re: The NBA Apple Vision Pro app now has a 3D tabletop view

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Post by Stedag »

0cf8612b2e1e wrote: post #17
whywhywhywhy wrote: post #3

Think I laughed out loud when they showed the table top NBA in the launch video because the exact same concept was in the launch videos for at least oculus and magic leap, maybe more headsets but it’s always been a fake concept that feels a bit like a solution in search of a problem. Fair play to them finally making the eternal vaporware demo real. Fascinating seeing how an Apple launch plays out when the 3rd party d…

I am struggling to come up with some mainstream uses for this. Sports, concerts, plays, etc are something that could theoretically be used on a recurring basis to entice the public. My only nerd imaginations are something like a WH40k game. Watch a MOBA in 3D. Fortnite. Maybe a few historical events? This was the moon landing configuration. The view from the grassy knoll to Kennedy.

A strategy games like baldurs gate would be amazingly immersive if selected characters were fixed to the table and the full world was rendered to the horizon

Re: The NBA Apple Vision Pro app now has a 3D tabletop view

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Post by dbtc »

0cf8612b2e1e wrote: post #17
whywhywhywhy wrote: post #3

Think I laughed out loud when they showed the table top NBA in the launch video because the exact same concept was in the launch videos for at least oculus and magic leap, maybe more headsets but it’s always been a fake concept that feels a bit like a solution in search of a problem. Fair play to them finally making the eternal vaporware demo real. Fascinating seeing how an Apple launch plays out when the 3rd party d…

I am struggling to come up with some mainstream uses for this. Sports, concerts, plays, etc are something that could theoretically be used on a recurring basis to entice the public. My only nerd imaginations are something like a WH40k game. Watch a MOBA in 3D. Fortnite. Maybe a few historical events? This was the moon landing configuration. The view from the grassy knoll to Kennedy.

Architecture, and any other physical design work?

But if it really is good for watching sports, that's a big market already.

Re: The NBA Apple Vision Pro app now has a 3D tabletop view

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Post by dmix »

rs186 wrote: post #88

Cool. How many people are going to use it? How much money is this going to make? I'm not putting my bets on NBA or Apple for this thing.

Probably depends on how much it costs to convert it to 3d in real time. NBA is desperate for new viewers, it's been declining (often due to their own rules).

It might end up being only for watching already aired games so they can backlog it and reduce costs.

Re: The NBA Apple Vision Pro app now has a 3D tabletop view

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Post by walthamstow »

brudgers wrote: post #41
gwbas1c wrote: post #24

> Would you prefer to watch your sport of choice in 180-degree immersive video, or as a 2D flatscreen view with a tabletop 3D representation? I think for people who are analyzing the game: Coaches, players, opponents, dedicated fans, historians, the tabletop view will be priceless. I also suspect that the tabletop view will become a tool in the editing room. For casual sports fans, a much more immersive experience wi…

Oddly for me, radio has been the most immersive media for live sports. Maybe because it is forced to prioritize audio…humans dance to sound not pictures. Not to say I seek out radio or that 3d doesn’t seem cool. Only that the effects of sound penetrate me in a way that visual stimulus doesn’t.

Cricket on the radio is absolute bliss, I'm sure Americans feel the same about baseball.

Re: The NBA Apple Vision Pro app now has a 3D tabletop view

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Post by sangnoir »

0cf8612b2e1e wrote: post #17
whywhywhywhy wrote: post #3

Think I laughed out loud when they showed the table top NBA in the launch video because the exact same concept was in the launch videos for at least oculus and magic leap, maybe more headsets but it’s always been a fake concept that feels a bit like a solution in search of a problem. Fair play to them finally making the eternal vaporware demo real. Fascinating seeing how an Apple launch plays out when the 3rd party d…

I am struggling to come up with some mainstream uses for this. Sports, concerts, plays, etc are something that could theoretically be used on a recurring basis to entice the public. My only nerd imaginations are something like a WH40k game. Watch a MOBA in 3D. Fortnite. Maybe a few historical events? This was the moon landing configuration. The view from the grassy knoll to Kennedy.

TV OEMs tried to make 3D home entertainment a thing over a decade ago, and it was a failure. Has the environment changed enough to make a difference? I have my doubts, even though the average Internet bandwidth has gone up, at least 3D TV was nominally a shared social activity.

Re: The NBA Apple Vision Pro app now has a 3D tabletop view

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Post by johnnyanmac »

sangnoir wrote: post #97
0cf8612b2e1e wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am struggling to come up with some mainstream uses for this. Sports, concerts, plays, etc are something that could theoretically be used on a recurring basis to entice the public. My only nerd imaginations are something like a WH40k game. Watch a MOBA in 3D. Fortnite. Maybe a few historical events? This was the moon landing configuration. The view from the grassy knoll to Kennedy.

TV OEMs tried to make 3D home entertainment a thing over a decade ago, and it was a failure. Has the environment changed enough to make a difference? I have my doubts, even though the average Internet bandwidth has gone up, at least 3D TV was nominally a shared social activity.

It's more Tha the tech improved. It's a way better feeling than any 3d projection and it's able to be interacted with.

The main issue is adoption. They aren't cheap enough that you'll simply gather a family around to play locally. At best you communicate online and experience it through peers from afar.

Re: The NBA Apple Vision Pro app now has a 3D tabletop view

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Post by ngokevin »

Interestingly, a lot of NBA fans don't even watch NBA games anymore because it's inconvenient (time and commercials) and games have no weight. Just highlights and statlines. Except for tuning in for recent Luka appearances.

So it's adding an extra layer of inconvenience and discomfort to something that's already seen as inconvenient, and something I feel people are doing less often unless watching with others.

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