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Nearly half of Steam's users are still using Windows 10

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Re: Nearly half of Steam's users are still using Windows 10

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Post by robrtsql »

jonathanlydall wrote: post #58
rideontime wrote: post #12

I've been using Windows 11 without much complaint since its release, but off the top of my head, I can't name a single "feature" that would motivate me to upgrade if I were on Windows 10, besides "continued support."

When unplugging and plugging back in external monitors it moves windows back to the same monitors they were on before unplugging them. This is probably the most significant QoL feature. The control centre generally feels better than Windows 10, except for switching sound outputs or getting to the volume mixer, which require too many clicks. The settings app is a little more cohesive and has had some more control pane…

> (and no, I will not switch to Linux as I’m not looking for another hobby).

Respectable. The state of desktop Linux is pretty good but it's very much a 'your-mileage-may-vary' situation. Every 'exotic' thing you introduce into your setup (having a variable-refresh-rate monitor, having an HDR monitor, two monitors of different refresh rates, running Wayland over X11, having a brand new GPU, having an NVIDIA GPU) is another possible, sometimes likely, source of pain.

Some of the multiplayer games I play with my friends can be played on Linux, but I make a point of using my Windows partition for those because I don't want to waste their time on my troubleshooting.

Re: Nearly half of Steam's users are still using Windows 10

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Post by bialpio »

jaimsam wrote: post #79
rideontime wrote: post #12

I've been using Windows 11 without much complaint since its release, but off the top of my head, I can't name a single "feature" that would motivate me to upgrade if I were on Windows 10, besides "continued support."

Sacrilegious. The best motivator for paying for Windows 11 is continuing to give money to a megalithic, parasitic corporation.

Paying? I believe my Windows 10 got upgraded to Windows 11 for free. IIRC this OS install that I'm using originally started as a Windows 8 and I didn't have to pay to upgrade it even once, but may be misremembering...

Re: Nearly half of Steam's users are still using Windows 10

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Post by Night_Thastus »

bigstrat2003 wrote: post #76
Night_Thastus wrote: post #71

Windows 11 is a massive nothing-burger. The only annoyance is for those who are stuck on older hardware without TPM. As for everyone else, it's almost identical to 10 aside from one minor graphical change. Personally I don't get why so many are opposed to it.

I'm opposed to it because it has ads. Simple as. And before you object, yes I know you can remove that stuff. But I shouldn't have to .

I've never seen a single ad since getting it. Then again, I use a PiHole, and turned off all the optional stuff on the initial install of W11.

Re: Nearly half of Steam's users are still using Windows 10

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Post by hmmm-i-wonder »

rideontime wrote: post #12

I've been using Windows 11 without much complaint since its release, but off the top of my head, I can't name a single "feature" that would motivate me to upgrade if I were on Windows 10, besides "continued support."

I can think of a number of reasons I'd downgrade.

-The absolute crap of a start menu now being all but useless -Advertisements -Increasingly forced to online accounts rather than local

Also the UI changes didn't improve anything, and the changes make upgrading more painful and frustrating than needed. One thing OSX has got right it doesn't keep making major surface change every upgrade.

Re: Nearly half of Steam's users are still using Windows 10

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Post by slowmovintarget »

wongarsu wrote: post #43
7bit wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's your point? Windows 7 had 11 years of support. Windows 10 had 10. Nothing strange about it.

- Windows 8.1 had 7 years of support after Windows 10 was released. - Windows 7 was supported for 7 years after Windows 8 came out. - Same for Vista after 7 and Windows XP after Vista. - Windows ME had 5 years of support after the release of Windows XP - Windows 98 had 6 years after ME. - Windows 1, 2, 3.0 and 3.1 all had 6 years of support after Windows 95 came out. Only 4 years of support after the release of the n…

Microsoft is desperate to push people to their always on-line pay-per-boot operating system. They succeeded in pushing me out of Windows altogether. When I bought a new gaming / AI rig, I moved to Linux.

Re: Nearly half of Steam's users are still using Windows 10

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Post by hmmm-i-wonder »

duxup wrote: post #22

I loved using windows for a long time. I could strip it down and it performed and stayed out of my way. It wasn't ever pretty, I didn't like a lot of it, but I could just get what I needed out of it. Then it started to change, UI / UX had about 20 different flavors. I couldn't find settings anymore. Updates would change settings / undo my explicit settings. Eventually it felt like I was using an ADWARE OS. I fled to…

After upgrading my W10 laptop to 11, I decided I'm never buying another windows computer again.

I'll be shopping for linux pre-installed and natively supported laptops, or Apple/OSX going forward (and I hate apple and refuse to use most of their services, but their hardware is solid and OS is now far better than windows)

Re: Nearly half of Steam's users are still using Windows 10

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Post by fecal_henge »

throwuxiytayq wrote: post #23
rideontime wrote: post #12

I've been using Windows 11 without much complaint since its release, but off the top of my head, I can't name a single "feature" that would motivate me to upgrade if I were on Windows 10, besides "continued support."

Windows 11 is a strict downgrade, you can't even set your taskbar to be vertical.

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Re: Nearly half of Steam's users are still using Windows 10

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Post by hmmm-i-wonder »

dandellion wrote: post #63
duxup wrote: post #22

I loved using windows for a long time. I could strip it down and it performed and stayed out of my way. It wasn't ever pretty, I didn't like a lot of it, but I could just get what I needed out of it. Then it started to change, UI / UX had about 20 different flavors. I couldn't find settings anymore. Updates would change settings / undo my explicit settings. Eventually it felt like I was using an ADWARE OS. I fled to…

In the last couple years I've used quite a bit of Windows and macOS (after many years using Linux exclusively), and I've found macOS to be my least favourite of the three. On the surface it looks similar to Linux, but it's all lies. My biggest grip is that very often I'll ask for a setting or solution to an issue and I kid you not, 80% of the time the response I get from mac users is you can't do that, but there's an…

For OSX, it either works (or can with an app, covering many things) or doesn't work at all (some things). I rarely find things in the middle.

For Linux, it either works (some things), works with effort and time (many things) or wont work (some things) weighted heavily towards the middle in varying degrees.

For windows, it either works (many things), or works in a weird not fully functional way that you can't fix or change and ends up being as frustrating as not having it at all, or as having to fix it in linux (seemingly more and more things), or doesn't work at all (a few things).

I can't stand using Windows anymore. Yes when it works its OK, except the UI gets worse every update, it gets more bloated with ad-ware, keeps trying to force you to online accounts and subscription models, and when it doesn't work the way you want, its a nightmare that typically can't be fixed (more so than any windows OS before)

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