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Musk-led group makes $97B bid for control of OpenAI

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Re: Musk-led group makes $97B bid for control of OpenAI

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OpenAI is the 6th most popular website in the world and if someone's going to kill Google, it's them. If they IPO'd today, they'd easily be worth hundreds of billions if not more.

This. Most users don't care about what model has the best benchmarks on twitter.

They care about the heavy censorship of the model, the amount of refusals and the low quality of the answers with the o1/o3 series.

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I don't like petty internet arguments, I can't help appreciate him referring to it as Twitter.

I only call it Twitter because I’m not gonna say “X” it just sounds stupid.

It seems like everyone calling it x.com would allow people to use the name without having to know the history or be confused by just calling something X.

Kind of how pets.com was always called pets.com, because just calling something "pets" would be confusing.

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This. Most users don't care about what model has the best benchmarks on twitter.

They care about the heavy censorship of the model, the amount of refusals and the low quality of the answers with the o1/o3 series.

They seem to be doing ok...

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=now%201-d&geo=...

Re: Musk-led group makes $97B bid for control of OpenAI

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According to this analysis from a few months back: https://www.wheresyoured.at/oai-business/ OpenAI are kind of fundamentally unsustainable as a business.

Before I read this 32-minute long article, who is Edward Zitron and why should I care about his opinion or analysis?

It would have been easier to Google him, or ask Claude/Mistral to write you a summary of his article.

I hadn't heard of the author before that article, but all the math and logic in it is sound. There is some guesswork on exact numbers (because OpenAI don't publish that sort of information) you can disagree with, but IMO it's fairly generous in their favour. And it still looks pretty bad for their financial prospects.

Re: Musk-led group makes $97B bid for control of OpenAI

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Sam’s reply on twitter[0] no thank you but we will buy twitter for $9.74 billion if you want [0] https://x.com/sama/status/1889059531625464090 ?

Sam gives off incredibly strong “pride cometh before the fall” energy.

There's certainly a part of me that wonders if Altman incorrectly assumes last year's rules still apply, when in fact he just ensured retribution from the man who counts all three branches of the United States government as his underlings.

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really? I'm curious to know what he's failed at. Seems like he's making all the right moves lately.

what? he's making terrible moves. violating the consitution, mainly. illegally hacking and slashing the federal government without any idea what he's doing, what he's cutting, providing any clear or sensible or accurate reason why, supporting and echoing nazis and white nationalists. i mean he's now the #2 villain to the half of the country with a moral compass. i miss when it was fun to talk about how cool a tesla w…

Terrible for who? Maybe for you (or me), seems to be working out quite great for him.

Re: Musk-led group makes $97B bid for control of OpenAI

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> Elon's offer to purchase the OpenAI nonprofit for $97.4billion isn't going to happen, but it may seriously complicate OpenAI's efforts to claim the nonprofit is fairly valued at $40billion. If you won't sell it for $97.4billion, that means you think it's worth more than that. https://x.com/KelseyTuoc/status/1889064215710941594

Given musk’s history (“funding secured” to take Tesla private; trying to back out of buying twitter), OpenAI can make a reasonable case that he’s full of shit and it’s not a real offer.

Re: Musk-led group makes $97B bid for control of OpenAI

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With first mover advantage disappearing for OpenAI and very good alternatives appearing, one wonders how long they can sustain a multi billion dollar per year loss[0]. The launch of ChatGPT was earth shaking, but what have they done since that impacts or excites the average consumer? Does their revenue even come from the average consumer, or primarily from API users that will lift and shift to a viable competitor? I…

According to this analysis from a few months back: https://www.wheresyoured.at/oai-business/ OpenAI are kind of fundamentally unsustainable as a business.

This is the modern version of 2010's "Amazon makes no money in retail"

Re: Musk-led group makes $97B bid for control of OpenAI

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Sam gives off incredibly strong “pride cometh before the fall” energy.

There's certainly a part of me that wonders if Altman incorrectly assumes last year's rules still apply, when in fact he just ensured retribution from the man who counts all three branches of the United States government as his underlings.

Well, I certainly hope people like sama are still willing to push back, and don't just bend the knee immediately to President Musk. Surely there's at least one or two people out there in Silicon Valley that still have a backbone.
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