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To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Post by huijzer »

> On Sunday December 1, when I got home, I tried to update the Operating System again. No luck. Same problem again, the download hung halfway.

This is a common problem. I also have a severe dislike of the Tesla updating process. I have the feeling that it's made for people who have a garage with 24/7 wifi. Without that, you're out of luck. In Okt and Dec of last year I have spent 4 hours per month on updating. This is with a 2020 Model 3.

The solution by the way for this problem is probably to go into the service mode and reinstall the software [1]. It will give some nasty warnings but it should work. I tested it myself once and for me it worked.

Another note:

> But this is Tesla, and it seems like no one is behind the wheel.

Yes that's true. It's very hard to get support and I also have some gripes about how some serious problems are not fixed. Tesla does have amazing online manuals though so that does alleviate the situation a bit. Also, if I need service I learned it's best to just walk into the service centre and ask there. They are very reasonable then. Just don't try any digital way. There is no point.

[1]: https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaLounge/comments/x00cbj/comment...

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Post by jamespo »

rcMgD2BwE72F wrote: post #66
misja111 wrote: post #8

Tesla sales are plummeting all over the world currently, also in the US. But with Musk in the US government, I wonder how long it will take before there will be tariffs on foreign cars big enough to pretty much force US citizens to buy his Tesla's.

>Tesla sales are plummeting all over the world currently, also in the US. No. Sales plummeted right before they released the long-awaited refresh of the Model Y. By far their best selling model. We have access to weekly sales numbers in China, and guess what, sales are going through the roof again. This refresh was introduced globally (all factories converted simultaneously), which is a first for Tesla.

Long-awaited by who?

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Post by physicsguy »

fiftyacorn wrote: post #55
misja111 wrote: post #8

Tesla sales are plummeting all over the world currently, also in the US. But with Musk in the US government, I wonder how long it will take before there will be tariffs on foreign cars big enough to pretty much force US citizens to buy his Tesla's.

Is it not the case that any tariff would apply to US made tesla's where the majority of the global stock is made in China, so wouldnt necessarily be affected?

I don't think so since Tesla isn't importing the China made cars into the US, ergo no tariff to pay.

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Post by supermatt »

lnsru wrote: post #76

I stoped reading when the writer admitted, that he bought a Tesla in a country without official dealership. Common sense tells me not to do this. That’s the situation when EU consumer laws start failing. That’s very brave, but not clever move at all!!! Having service center 300 miles away is too far. It’s not lot of statistics, but I know cases where guys needed replacement parts before new other brand car reached 50…

> That’s the situation when EU consumer laws start failing

That is not true at all. You have EXACTLY the same protections no matter where you purchase from in the EU, and there is a lot of assistance set up specifically to help handling cross-border issues.

I do agree that the distance is definitely an issue for service though - its exactly why I haven't purchased a tesla

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Post by f90604c2fc »

ozim wrote: post #56
f90604c2fc wrote: post #28

If I were you I'd insist on getting the car updated before anything. When you say the update gets stuck its actually not stuck but unpacking the huge firmware archive. You need to give it some time and preferablly keep it connected to a wifi so that after it unpacks part 1 it continues with downloading the rest of the parts.

We arrived in the nightmare when before using washing machine or a car you have to download software updates, restart it couple times. I am mostly tech enthusiast but as a proper adult I want to scream "fu* off I just want to use that damn thing I want to play with my child and not watch another progress bar". Also I am fully convinced that if you don't look at the progress bar something will ALWAYS break during the…

He bought a car from another country, I believe he should have a couple of hours to try update it before calling it dead.

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

#99

Post by viraptor »

rcMgD2BwE72F wrote: post #66
misja111 wrote: post #8

Tesla sales are plummeting all over the world currently, also in the US. But with Musk in the US government, I wonder how long it will take before there will be tariffs on foreign cars big enough to pretty much force US citizens to buy his Tesla's.

>Tesla sales are plummeting all over the world currently, also in the US. No. Sales plummeted right before they released the long-awaited refresh of the Model Y. By far their best selling model. We have access to weekly sales numbers in China, and guess what, sales are going through the roof again. This refresh was introduced globally (all factories converted simultaneously), which is a first for Tesla.

Have you got the source? I feel like someone would be shouting loudly about it if that was the case.

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

#100

Post by therein »

bflesch wrote: post #7
jamesy0ung wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

8% seems like a lot. Car usually stays plugged in at home so I haven't seen it drain. I wonder if it's having trouble since the cameras aren't working, and constantly trying to detect objects or something?

I'm ready to provide witness statement in front of court about the 8% per day battery loss from sentry mode on a 2022 M3P. It's not even on a busy street, just a shitty software. Not sure why you want to argue about that. Edit: Sorry maybe this sounded a bit too rough, but unplug your car and check it yourself. It's like someone is siphoning gasoline from your vehicle every single day.

Pretty crazy that simple motion detection is taking that much power. It is absolutely shitty software.

The battery capacity on that car is incredible, you could put a 4090 in there and run it and it would maybe drain 8% a day, right? So something extremely irresponsible is going on.

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