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Shwe Kokko is accused of being a city built on scams

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Re: Shwe Kokko is accused of being a city built on scams

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Post by maeil »

awongh wrote: post #88
v3ss0n wrote: post #64

I am from Myanmar and Shwe KoKo is the biggest scam hub of the world . Not just online scam they are operating all kind of illegal activities.Myanmar Junta is also part of that and china bordering Laukkai. Laukkai is now liberated and scammers arrested as revolution forces won. Shwe KoKo is last one to be eliminated . They advertise recruitment ads of 8000$ a month for working in IT so many youth went there , and for…

Sad that what's going on in Myanmar isn't more widely reported in international news.

I'm sure Meta has a lot of algorithm tweaks to derank any mention of negative events in Myanmar.

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Post by noja »

dr-detroit wrote: post #38
rob74 wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I suspect that when he's done working for it, there won't be a (functioning) government anymore, so yes.

I am offended by the foul Musk as much as the next guy but if we are being fair wasn't the story always that the federal government was a disfunctional mess? Does anybody think our leadership over the last 50 years accomplished anything worth preserving? I was taught in civics nobody is really trustworthy to open a new constitutional convention and change things but if we never take any risks wont that be bad too?

Muskism dictates that you must decry the terrible state of whatever-it-is before destroying it (but skip over the part about what the replacement will be).

Re: Shwe Kokko is accused of being a city built on scams

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

smcin wrote: post #76
lmm wrote: post #16

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No, but it's probably the most famous (at worst, second behind Monte Carlo).

No, Macau is. It's Western media bias that we talk about LV way more than Macau. (Also, LV still has the English-language entertainment acts, conventions, conferences.) But for gambling revenue, Las Vegas was passed out by Macau back in 2007 already: https://www.reuters.com/article/macau-revenues/the-worlds-ca...

Macau in 2007 was way more about money laundering than Las Vegas. Do you have more recent numbers? After Xi’s crackdown, I’d expect their gambling revenue to go down by a lot.

Re: Shwe Kokko is accused of being a city built on scams

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Post by intuitionist »

smcin wrote: post #77
api wrote: post #69

For those who don't know -- Boca Raton, Florida is well known in the US as a major center of scams and borderline-scams like MLMs. Utah has a history of being a home for this stuff too, as well as a lot of quack supplement companies and self-help nonsense. Just pointing this out so we don't think this doesn't exist here.

Why Boca Raton in particular?

There are a lot of wealthy retirees in South Florida who make great marks. Beyond that it’s probably to some extent driven by talent agglomeration effects; if you’re someone who makes their money promoting scammy penny stocks, you might want to learn from other people who promote scammy penny stocks, so if they’re in Boca, you’ll go to Boca. Coincidentally(?) Boca Raton was founded by the Mizner brothers, Addison and Wilson; Wilson Mizner was himself a notorious con man.

Re: Shwe Kokko is accused of being a city built on scams

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Post by v3ss0n »

alephnerd wrote: post #80
v3ss0n wrote: post #64

I am from Myanmar and Shwe KoKo is the biggest scam hub of the world . Not just online scam they are operating all kind of illegal activities.Myanmar Junta is also part of that and china bordering Laukkai. Laukkai is now liberated and scammers arrested as revolution forces won. Shwe KoKo is last one to be eliminated . They advertise recruitment ads of 8000$ a month for working in IT so many youth went there , and for…

> The BGF Militia of Saw Chit Thu They used to be militants against the Central Government right? Didn't they split off from the KNU originally? > They are moving operartion more inside of Myanmar As in deeper within periphery regions or actually within the "core" like Yangon/Bago/Irrawaddy/Magwe? On that note, has a similar rise in transnational organized crime started in those regions as well? ----------- I really…

Only way to get better for us is to get rid of junta. Now they are kidnapping both boy and girls above age of 18 to use as Cannon fodder at Frontline and also increased in missing children and body of kids end up with organ missing even inside Yangon. Girls are getting Human trafficked by both military and scam gangs too. I had managed to move most of my employees outside of Myanmar but still our future aren't safe.

Latest news I heard is scam gangs are moving inner karen are, around phayar thone su.

Re: Shwe Kokko is accused of being a city built on scams

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Post by v3ss0n »

maeil wrote: post #91
awongh wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sad that what's going on in Myanmar isn't more widely reported in international news.

I'm sure Meta has a lot of algorithm tweaks to derank any mention of negative events in Myanmar.

Most people don't dare to speak out much on Facebook theses days due to junta spy reporting and people end up getting capture, and bodies sent back next morning to family.

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Post by zemvpferreira »

doctorpangloss wrote: post #87
zemvpferreira wrote: post #50

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Please don't take this as a criticism but do you have a source documenting what you're describing? I'd really like to read up on it.

I guess a better question is, when donation rates in Asia are so low, where are transplanted organs coming from? Somebody already linked to a variety of research on this topic, it is the consensus that organ procurement in China is exploitative, even if people don’t know the exact details. Should surgeons even perform transplants in Asia? Many interesting questions.

I'm sorry but those links seem to talk about dozens, or hundreds, of paid or somewhat coerced donors. OP is talking about hundreds of thousands of people being perpetually harvested in captivity. I'm not say he's lying or exaggerating, but I would appreciate a much, much, much better source to support those claims.

Re: Shwe Kokko is accused of being a city built on scams

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Post by v3ss0n »

k8sToGo wrote: post #37
feverzsj wrote: post #32

It's not just some scams. It's the darkest thing ever in the whole human history. After China banned using of death row organs around 2014, the world's largest organ black market has moved to southeast Asia. There are estimated more than 100k victims (mostly Chinese) annually. Some of them may be released, if their families can afford the ransom. The remaining victims are treated like livestock. They are forced into…

Are you sure you didn't just describe RimWorld? Someone doing that in real life is truly disturbing

It is getting darker than what OP said. I would say 10x more. There are many kids getting kidnapped and bodies turn up in rivers with organ missing on daily basis. Missing person cases sky rocketing all over social media , last month is worse.

Re: Shwe Kokko is accused of being a city built on scams

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Post by xg15 »

bandrami wrote: post #41
k8sToGo wrote: post #37

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Are you sure you didn't just describe RimWorld? Someone doing that in real life is truly disturbing

Remember that the universally recognized setting for a grim cyberpunk dystopia is not a theoretical prediction but a memory of an actual city just north of Hong Kong that was demolished 30 years ago

If you're talking about Kowloon Walled City, I found Gibson's essay "Disneyland with the death penalty" (and the fact that the essay blew up like it did) pretty revealing about how the actual preferences in (western) SciFi are.

In the essay, Kowloon is not the dystopia - that is Singapore - it is the utopia:

https://lateralthinkingtechnology.wordpress.com/2021/06/27/c...

Gibson writes about Singapore's artificial "squeaky-clean authoritarian", style with almost physical revulsion, while Kowloon comes off as the plucky antihero that is overtly kind of a dick but that we all are secretly rooting for.

I also don't think that Singapore would really qualify as an utopia. The death penalty is real and the democracy there seems to exist mostly on paper. But at least the state actively tries to solve problems in society and improve the standard of living for everyone.

In contrast, Kowloon was a place literally built and run by the mafia, and by all records must have been hell to actually live in (as opposed to read stories about it).

I feel a lot of cyberpunk comes over like this: Pretending to be a cautionary tale on the surface but at the same time, presenting it with such a kind of longing, wistful outlook that it's pretty clear the authors would love to be in that place in some way.

Makes me kind of understand how we got to the "at last, we built the Torment Nexus" territory in the end.

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