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What really happens inside a dating app

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Re: What really happens inside a dating app

#91

The data here falls in line with the infamous OKcupid study (which got cancelled and taken down because men and women are identical, donchaknow?) The takeaway is that humans best date by meeting people in person through mutual acquaintances. Without the forced direct social interaction, women are only interested in the top 10% of guys, and guys are just aimlessly running at anything that moves regardless of their act…

It does imply a potentially interesting algorithm though:

Show all of the women to all of the men. From this you get numbers on which women are the most highly rated. Then, show women a) men who are at the same percentile as them or below and b) the smaller number of men who have already liked them.

The result is that 60th percentile women end up primarily liking 60th percentile men and so on, because they're the highest rated men they're typically shown, and they're going to pick the top 5% of whatever distribution you show them.

Then you end up with good matches, instead of having all the women match only with the 95th percentile players who don't want a serious relationship.

Re: What really happens inside a dating app

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post #85

> Among girls : 10% where lesbian, 84% were hetero and 12 % were interested in both genders > Among guys: 7% homo, 92% hetero and almost none were interested in both genders That's insane.

Possibly all the gays are going to gay specific apps like grindr

Re: What really happens inside a dating app

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post #85

> Among girls : 10% where lesbian, 84% were hetero and 12 % were interested in both genders > Among guys: 7% homo, 92% hetero and almost none were interested in both genders That's insane.

It tracks, actually. Men tend to pick a sexual orientation and be disgusted by the other sexual orientation[0]. Women are a lot more hetero- (and homo-) flexible.

[0] It works both ways! A guy once told me and my wife that we made a cute couple despite how disgusting heterosexuality really was. And I was like... okay, thanks?

Re: What really happens inside a dating app

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> Can Dating apps be fixed?

> What I meant by "fixed", is an app where:

> It is possible for someone to reach out to anyone and get an answer, and discussion can be interesting from the start (at least as much as in real life)

> Your looks, how you behave, the tone of your voice,... reflect what you look like in real life

> It is easier to meet new people than attending local events

> I don't think it can

Well, as long as the metrics app builders are optimizing for are "retention" and "monetization", like this post obsesses over, and the people building the apps continue to refer to women as "girls", like they've never had a relationship with an adult woman, then I agree, dating apps are going to continue their process of enshittification.

Re: What really happens inside a dating app

#95
Equal parts fascinating and dystopian.

I'm even more convinced now that online dating has reached a local optima, but eventually someone is going to find a solution that is less shallow and predatory and blow it out of the water.

Re: What really happens inside a dating app

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Has anyone noticed that the histograms have some spikes and valleys that are probably artifacts?

My guess is that there's some rounding or floating point shannanigans going on.

Yes this is what I have to contribute to the conversation, I cannot speak to the dating dynamics as I am an unexpert on that subject

Re: What really happens inside a dating app

#97

My anecdotal user-end data-science-ish story about dating apps: A few years back I was single and on Hinge a fair amount. If you used Hinge back then, you'll remember some key differences between the platform and other dating apps: 1) when you "like"'d someone, you'd have to comment on a specific part of their profile (a photo, a prompt answer, etc), 2) these likes showed up in their inbox, independent of whether the…

That's similar to getting votes on HN, it's mostly about appearing near the top of the comments, and that has mostly to so with getting in relatively early.

You also need to be reasonably good at commenting (ie, don't be ugly).

Re: What really happens inside a dating app

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post #85

> Among girls : 10% where lesbian, 84% were hetero and 12 % were interested in both genders > Among guys: 7% homo, 92% hetero and almost none were interested in both genders That's insane.

As a bi person who's currently a man, but considering transition, I can't help but wonder if maybe all the bi guys are just... picking up and leaving to become bi gals :P

Re: What really happens inside a dating app

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> You would need to be a pro at user interviews to really get interesting feedback. (Well maybe this is the norm in B2C but at the end of the day user interviews were of no help).

This shouldn’t be surprising. Interviewing humans is a skill. Doing so in a product context, and learning useful things from it, is not easy.

I hope they don’t approach other things this way. “You’d need to be a professional plumber to stop water leaking out of this. Maybe that’s the norm but at the end of the day plumbing was no help.”

Re: What really happens inside a dating app

#100

There is a truly fascinating talk by a data scientist who "hacked" the "algorithm" of a dating site and became the most matched person in californina. Highly recommended. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJod9kRYyao

Yea, hacker mindset is what I applied with Tinder. It worked wonders, went from 1 to 100 matches per month. I feel like having a hacker mindset with dating in general works wonders. Oh, and not having social anxiety of course. It took a long time to not have that.

Sorry but if I ever start growth hacking my fucking tinder profile promptly push me off a cliff.

edit: Sorry for the inflammatory language. Not one of my finer moments.

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