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Re: .mail app

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really pushed the conversational view and presented it in a single-screen way that was innovative (compare how long it took e-mail clients to catch up with that... and no, "group by thread" did not compare). I love GMail's conversation view, but AFAIK, not really many other desktop email clients have adopted it. Who else has it?

What's the difference between conversations and threads? I use gmail, and I use Outlook and PINE and Netscape Mail and Eudora etc and I can't work out what was improved.

Conversations typically trim portions of messages to make it look you only see what people actually type out. It strips things like headers, signatures, replies, etc.

Threads are a sort of pre-Web 2.0 way of doing things. The messages are linked together in the tree portion of the UI but are still viewed individually in the viewing pane. They aren't stacked together like they are in a typical conversation view.

Conversations are a more modern, succinct take on what threads were trying to be.

Re: .mail app

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> concepts such as embracing the fact that it is not truly productive to file every single e-mail into a purposeful folder, embracing that tagging is better than folders. I don't know if it was there from the beginning, but I have always used rules which say "apply filter and skip inbox" effectively giving me separate folders. To each his own; I don't like kitchen-sink inbox, and like separate folders to just tagging…

The issue with Gmail is that you can't affect the order in which the filters are applied. For example: A error email gets sent to a development mailing list. Normally I tag all of the mailing list emails, and skip the inbox. - What if I want the error email to stay in my inbox, but only if it's an error email? - What if I want that email to get tagged as "ERRORS" and "DEV_LIST" and skip the Inbox? I have to do weird…

I don't use GMail so I've never come across their filtering before, but that looks crap. Sieve is much more flexible. And they could have also implemented ManageSieve so people with mail clients which support the protocol could configure their filtering rules directly from their mta.

Re: .mail app

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Best of luck w/ the implementation. However, reading the concept, I am unimpressed. In Mail.app, I can already mark e-mails with different-colored flags, which allows me to come up with my own "get back soon" or "get back later" type of a system. The assertion that e-mail hasn't changed since 1970's is false. Modern e-mail clients manage it much better. Compare Mail.app, Outlook and GMail to PINE--the difference is s…

really pushed the conversational view and presented it in a single-screen way that was innovative (compare how long it took e-mail clients to catch up with that... and no, "group by thread" did not compare). I love GMail's conversation view, but AFAIK, not really many other desktop email clients have adopted it. Who else has it?

Outlook has had that since 2003, though it was not very functional until 2010. It is not enabled by default.

Re: .mail app

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Someone loves Outlook

I really like Outlook. I switched to Gmail this year because I wanted free e-mail and Gmail is easier to configure. But, as a client, I enjoyed Outlook much more than I do Gmail.

So why don't you just point Outlook at GMail?

Re: .mail app

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Whoo boy does that site ever not work without javascript... Sort of ridiculous since it's a static page advertising a desktop app, neither of which should require javascript at all. EDIT: Oh God, and hot pink highlighting does NOT complement their color scheme. And for all its javascript fanciness, it doesn't handle resizing at all. Sorry to be so negative, this site just pushes all my buttons.

What sort of sites are you visiting that do work without javascript?

Nearly all of them.

Re: .mail app

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It would be great if instead of having to build a new app ground up every time we want to add a few features, if we could simply add those features to the existing application. This would be a lot easier if that application was open source, but having a modular architecture and malleable/extensible design would be more important. Does anyone have thoughts on application that are designed such that features can be add…

Thunderbird uses similar technology for it's addons as Firefox and is just as extensible. If you can write JavaScript, you should be able to figure out how to extend Thunderbird. The entire calendar and pgp functionality comes from addons.

Re: .mail app

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I thought reddit and HN were using the same system. What's the difference?

Hacker News is written in Arc, a dialect of Lisp: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arc_(programming_language) Reddit used be written in Lisp, but they switched to Python early on: http://blog.reddit.com/2005/12/on-lisp.html I do agree that they look alike, Hacker News was inspired by Reddit.

Not the same exact software, just the same way of representing comment threads.

Re: .mail app

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As in Google Groups?

You think that google groups is an analogous email client?

No, but Google Groups brings the innovations mentioned above to email lists, so it's an analogous comparison.

Re: .mail app

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Just a heads up, if the creator is reading here, your page loads 0 content with javascript blocked. A minimal plea for javascript unblocking might gain you extra traffic - I know I didn't care enough to add you to my whitelist, since I had NOTHING to go on.

You intentionally disabled a chunk of your web browser, and are now complaining that some websites don't look right?
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