Yes. Avoid their name servers, too - I was surprised how many weird connectivity issues went away years ago when I manually configured DNS.
Avoid ISP Routers (2024)
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Re: Avoid ISP Routers (2024)
#92AT&T Fiber's routers have, in the past, had a tendency to overheat, offered false promises like "DMZ Plus" mode and have had a host of issues that led to a black market of people selling stolen AT&T certificate files [0] on the internet so you could bypass them, because they use 802.1x between their "Router/gateway" combination device and their ONT, when they're separate devices. The AT&T XGS-PON network is mostly co…
As someone who has done this I take issue with characterizing the certificates as stolen. I exploited a security vulnerability in the device's web UI to extract them, from a piece of equipment I paid for. Its my equipment the provider required me to buy it for service, I can do with it as I please. I would be in agreement with it if we were using all this to steal service, we just don't want to use their unstable and…
Having recently cancelled AT&T fiber service, their router (Arris BGW210-700) was definitely still AT&T property and they seemed to have every intention of collecting it from me. They had been charging $10/mo "equipment rental" fees for the entire time.
When the prepaid shipping box never arrived, I called them and inquired. The representative told me that, since it was 5+ years old, they didn't want it and I should throw it out as e-waste. I still have it in a closet somewhere.
Might be a regional difference, but in my case I never felt that the box was mine.
Re: Avoid ISP Routers (2024)
#93The average consumer who uses teh internetz probably isn't all that savvy
So when an ISP borders (and often more than that) on criminal practices or being malicious - which is a lot of them - they're laid prone to all the upstream garbage
(Defaults matter)
Re: Avoid ISP Routers (2024)
#94I wish. I own my own modem and router, but Comcast won’t let me use them unless I pay a whole bunch of extra fees or accept a stupidly low monthly data cap. I’ve got my router downstream of theirs which is a bit annoying, especially considering their modem-router combo overheats and needs to be rebooted via unplugging power at least once a month. Sadly I have no other options here in San Francisco. My house is not wi…
I live in SF and Comcast doesn't charge me to have my own router. I pay $130 for 1.4gbit and unlimited data. It's expensive but I also have no other choices. Sonic stops only one block over and we haven't been able to convince them to wire up my block.
he said modem... he also have own router dowstream.
Re: Avoid ISP Routers (2024)
#95I wish. I own my own modem and router, but Comcast won’t let me use them unless I pay a whole bunch of extra fees or accept a stupidly low monthly data cap. I’ve got my router downstream of theirs which is a bit annoying, especially considering their modem-router combo overheats and needs to be rebooted via unplugging power at least once a month. Sadly I have no other options here in San Francisco. My house is not wi…
The crappiness of national ISPs is a feature, not a bug. ISPs have lobbied at state and federal levels to get their way. In many states, they have lobbied _for_ the ban of municipal ISPs. Then between major ISPs they have under the table agreements to avoid competing in certain areas. This impacts all types of residential areas - suburban, urban, and rural. I believe it’s much worse in rural areas. Why bother with pr…
remember when verizon got a few Billions to deliver affordable rural access then pocketed the money and delivered nothing?
you ougth remember because it happened three times.
Re: Avoid ISP Routers (2024)
#96In similar news: The German regulator (BNetzA) just re-confirmed two weeks ago [0] that passive optical networks are not exempt from § 73 (1) of the TKG (Telecommunication law) which mandates that the interface between provider and customer is required to be a passive interface (i.e. mandating an ONT is already in violation of that).
And that is fine. The different PON standards are reasonably well standardized and can operate in these standard modes for most equipment manufacturers. The NSP may lose some proprietary features, but the past has shown that equipment manufacturers have adapted for the German market accordingly.
The law does allow exemptions, mainly if required for access technology reasons, but clearly states that even in that case the device that connects the end-user devices to the service (i.e. router) cannot be mandated by the ISP. They can provide one, but they cannot prevent you from connecting your own.
I do sometimes miss living in Germany.
[0]: Press release in German: https://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/SharedDocs/Pressemitteilung...
Re: Avoid ISP Routers (2024)
#97Some of the comments here about ISP behaviour are crazy. Australia has had our fair share of fucking up the national internet infrastructure but at least I can pick pretty much any ISP and use any router I like. Haven't used an ISP supplied router in something like 15 years.
I mean technically in Australia these days the nbn box is the "modem" for all intents and purposes, if you have fttp.
You don't actually need a secondary modem and can plug your pc directly into it, takes a lot of the pain out of it and reduces the need for ISP supplied modems.
Re: Avoid ISP Routers (2024)
#98I run my own homelab and have a Ubiquiti gateway (UDM). I would have loved to have the fibre connection come directly into my box uninterrupted but the ISP's modem is required to associate the connection with my account (or something to that effect). Deeply disappointing.
That’s pretty normal for fiber. They usually want their own device at the end of it
Re: Avoid ISP Routers (2024)
#99I wish. I own my own modem and router, but Comcast won’t let me use them unless I pay a whole bunch of extra fees or accept a stupidly low monthly data cap. I’ve got my router downstream of theirs which is a bit annoying, especially considering their modem-router combo overheats and needs to be rebooted via unplugging power at least once a month. Sadly I have no other options here in San Francisco. My house is not wi…
if you want static ip addresses, you need comcast business and must use their router. blast.
Re: Avoid ISP Routers (2024)
#100I wish. I own my own modem and router, but Comcast won’t let me use them unless I pay a whole bunch of extra fees or accept a stupidly low monthly data cap. I’ve got my router downstream of theirs which is a bit annoying, especially considering their modem-router combo overheats and needs to be rebooted via unplugging power at least once a month. Sadly I have no other options here in San Francisco. My house is not wi…
Since you’re in SF, have you tried Monkeybrains?
Edit for disclosure: I’m a former employee, but I have no present affiliation with the company.