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Re: Hoppscotch: Open source alternative to Postman / Insomnia

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Post by natebc »

Chris2048 wrote: post #69
jurschreuder wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bruno is nice because unlike postman all the calls are defined in files that you can add to the git of your project. Only thing I don't like about Bruno is that you cannot generate a documentation from your api call tests.

Are there non-binary versions of Bruno?

https://github.com/usebruno/bruno has the source code. It's a node app so i guess by binary you mean a way to run it without the normal electron wrapper? You should be able to run it standalone though i've never tried it outside it's normal distribution method.

Re: Hoppscotch: Open source alternative to Postman / Insomnia

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Post by natebc »

jmorenoamor wrote: post #22
DrBenCarson wrote: post #3

The industry has largely moved to [Bruno]( https://github.com/usebruno/bruno )

I moved to Bruno for being local, but even before being polished, I see it's taking the cloud route

How so? In their README they specifically state:

> Bruno is offline-only. There are no plans to add cloud-sync to Bruno, ever. We value your data privacy and believe it should stay on your device. Read our long-term vision here https://github.com/usebruno/bruno/discussions/269>.

I glanced over that github discussion and don't see where they've gone back on that statement. Am I just missing where they've taken the cloud route?

Re: Hoppscotch: Open source alternative to Postman / Insomnia

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Post by jellyfishbeaver »

DrBenCarson wrote: post #3

The industry has largely moved to [Bruno]( https://github.com/usebruno/bruno )

My whole organization picked up Bruno after the whole Postman fiasco. I've found Bruno to be very unpolished and buggy. We've run into bugs where the UI will show one value, but when the request sends it uses a previously overwritten variable.

Looking forward to having to move to something else, again.. sigh

Re: Hoppscotch: Open source alternative to Postman / Insomnia

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Post by that_guy_iain »

vault wrote: post #50
that_guy_iain wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The industry being who? Because this is the first time I've heard of Bruno? And what does it do that the others don't?

You should ask instead "What does it NOT do that the others do?"

I just care what it does.

Re: Hoppscotch: Open source alternative to Postman / Insomnia

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Post by lelanthran »

written-beyond wrote: post #24

Without sounding like every other developer who hates on electron, I would really appreciate an http client with a Gui that was lighter, like iced or slint. I appreciate the versatility of electron and it giving us beautiful and usable apps but I have 16 GB of ram, I can't upgrade it and I genuinely have multi second hangs after I have 3 instances of VSCode, Firefox and Chrome open along with Bruno.

> Without sounding like every other developer who hates on electron, I would really appreciate an http client with a Gui that was lighter, like iced or slint.

How much would you be willing to pay for such a client?

I'm not being facetious, I'd really rather like to know, because as an independent developer, every single time I suggest a native application using native widgets to a client, they choose the HTML interface rather than a Qt or similar based interface.

The easily doable pretty animations in CSS in a 800MB-in-RAM-while-running application is, to paying clients, preferable than a 50MB-in-RAM-while-running that doesn't have the fancy spinning, tilting, animated wizz-bangs.

I have been writing software professionally since the mid-90s; I can do you a quick GUI-based cross-platform HTTP send+receive application based on libcurl in about 2 weeks. Looking at the minimum I need to make to pay my bills, I need purchasers paying a cumulative 1000USD for this effort, so 10x buyers @ $100, or 100 buyers @ $10, and so forth.

And, of course, I'd expect to only be able to sell it for a short while, if it is popular, until a clone starts up with $40k worth of SEO and advertising money.

The software you want can be had, and the skill to make it exists, in a timeframe that is feasible, but the economics are just not there.

Re: Hoppscotch: Open source alternative to Postman / Insomnia

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Post by necessary »

lelanthran wrote: post #95
written-beyond wrote: post #24

Without sounding like every other developer who hates on electron, I would really appreciate an http client with a Gui that was lighter, like iced or slint. I appreciate the versatility of electron and it giving us beautiful and usable apps but I have 16 GB of ram, I can't upgrade it and I genuinely have multi second hangs after I have 3 instances of VSCode, Firefox and Chrome open along with Bruno.

> Without sounding like every other developer who hates on electron, I would really appreciate an http client with a Gui that was lighter, like iced or slint. How much would you be willing to pay for such a client? I'm not being facetious, I'd really rather like to know, because as an independent developer, every single time I suggest a native application using native widgets to a client, they choose the HTML interfa…

This is a good business perspective, but I don’t really see why this couldn’t be someone’s open source passion project. The comment wasn’t really implying that they needed a paid tool, just a tool that suits their needs and is lightweight. Plenty of the software I use on a daily basis is open source software where you could argue that the economics shouldn’t have been there.

Re: Hoppscotch: Open source alternative to Postman / Insomnia

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Post by lelanthran »

necessary wrote: post #96
lelanthran wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Without sounding like every other developer who hates on electron, I would really appreciate an http client with a Gui that was lighter, like iced or slint. How much would you be willing to pay for such a client? I'm not being facetious, I'd really rather like to know, because as an independent developer, every single time I suggest a native application using native widgets to a client, they choose the HTML interfa…

This is a good business perspective, but I don’t really see why this couldn’t be someone’s open source passion project. The comment wasn’t really implying that they needed a paid tool, just a tool that suits their needs and is lightweight. Plenty of the software I use on a daily basis is open source software where you could argue that the economics shouldn’t have been there.

> Plenty of the software I use on a daily basis is open source software where you could argue that the economics shouldn’t have been there.

Me too. But the problem with "the economics just aren't there" means that if I cannot get, just from word-of-mouth (say, a Show HN post) 100 users @ $10 once-off lifetime purchase, then this is not a product that is in demand anyway. An open-source/free product that is exactly the same would similarly receive no love from users.

IOW, if not enough users exist for this product at $10, not enough users exist for this product at $0. Your passion product will still result in the dev burning out on the fact that no one wants their passion enough.

Re: Hoppscotch: Open source alternative to Postman / Insomnia

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Post by JTyQZSnP3cQGa8B »

_benj wrote: post #88
JTyQZSnP3cQGa8B wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bruno was supposed to free us from the other bad guy, then they added a subscription too. Fuck Bruno I guess.

I find this funny from people that make their living from $$ from software! Lol But apart from that Bruno is open source (MIT), you can fork it and have it anyway you want… The paid option seems just like the traditional open source model of make software free but offer enterprise support. And given that CTOs tent to want to pay for stuff (postman is terrible nowadays but is still picked and paid for) why would Bruno…

Open-source is about having the whole stuff, not restrictions on "Embed Bruno into your SDLC with deeper Git integration, automation."

What I do resent is the fact that Bruno was a reaction to shitty restrictions from another application, and they did the same thing a few months/years later.

Re: Hoppscotch: Open source alternative to Postman / Insomnia

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Post by ToucanLoucan »

est wrote: post #7

Am I the only one who use CURL over such tools? I don't want a 300MB electron client doing GET/POST work, especially those with hidden telemetry on.

I cannot express in words how much as an engineer I am sick of every app people suggest to me needing an entire quasi-visualized OS running behind it, written in the shittiest language ever to grace our cursed machines, just to render text and perform web requests.

Re: Hoppscotch: Open source alternative to Postman / Insomnia

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Post by rganesan »

sunnybeetroot wrote: post #56
politelemon wrote: post #10

Terminal based: https://posting.sh/

That’s incredible, amazes me that you can get a GUI like this in terminal. Next someone will put doom in the terminal

https://www.androidauthority.com/android-16-linux-terminal-d... :-)
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