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Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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This is the type of thing that'd normally show up on CDC's Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report which has been published weekly since 1960 (my understanding is this is without fail). But unfortunately the current administration has decided an ideological purification is more important than keeping the American public apprised of threats to their health. So it wasn't published last week, and probably won't be this we…

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Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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So why doesn’t the CDC track it so we know the actual numbers? That would be good information to know. Also the academic article here is simply a response to another academic article supporting the 3rd leading cause of death: https://scholar.google.com/scholar_lookup?author=MA+Makary&a... Which academic has it right? The study you shared is critical of the sources used in the first, but also provides no new data sour…

Probably because you could die from medical malpractice tomorrow but the final determination will take many years to resolve in the courts. Is there much value in going back and revising a number of deaths from 2019? Maybe. If the numbers are large enough or reflect a pattern that could be corrected/improved. More likely is there is nothing actionable there.

The action would be reducing the dangers of medical procedures and individuals feeling empowered to advocate for their safety and treatment.

Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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This is the type of thing that'd normally show up on CDC's Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report which has been published weekly since 1960 (my understanding is this is without fail). But unfortunately the current administration has decided an ideological purification is more important than keeping the American public apprised of threats to their health. So it wasn't published last week, and probably won't be this we…

> "Politics don't matter" though ;) Bummer! 1. Is there an argument here that the CDC's Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report's unbroken publication record is so important it should switch votes? 2. They probably still filled the report in, so there is a chance it eventually gets published. No need to abandon hope yet.

It’s not exactly an outlier among the many arguments.

Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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This is the type of thing that'd normally show up on CDC's Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report which has been published weekly since 1960 (my understanding is this is without fail). But unfortunately the current administration has decided an ideological purification is more important than keeping the American public apprised of threats to their health. So it wasn't published last week, and probably won't be this we…

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Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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but only because dead people don't buy eggs so it's expected lowered demand will "stabilize" prices. the numbers are what's important, people. (sorry (not sorry) for the angry sarcasm)

Has anyone died from the Kansas outbreak? Are you scaremongering? I checked the TB mortality in the US and it was 2 per 1,000,000 cases

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Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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So why doesn’t the CDC track it so we know the actual numbers? That would be good information to know. Also the academic article here is simply a response to another academic article supporting the 3rd leading cause of death: https://scholar.google.com/scholar_lookup?author=MA+Makary&a... Which academic has it right? The study you shared is critical of the sources used in the first, but also provides no new data sour…

Malpractice law is complex and time consuming. Determining it to be a cause or contributor to a death isn't quite like going "yup, that's pneumonia". Studies are what we use to estimate it, and this one was a big outlier.

Causality itself is a complex philosophical topic. I agree it probably can’t be established.

That’s why death reportings tend to use “died with X”. I understand that there is a sensitivity to ascribe liability or fault. But if someone dies in recovery from a surgery, or worse under anesthesia, that seems like something that could be identified and reported.

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Probably because you could die from medical malpractice tomorrow but the final determination will take many years to resolve in the courts. Is there much value in going back and revising a number of deaths from 2019? Maybe. If the numbers are large enough or reflect a pattern that could be corrected/improved. More likely is there is nothing actionable there.

The action would be reducing the dangers of medical procedures and individuals feeling empowered to advocate for their safety and treatment.

> individuals feeling empowered to advocate for their safety and treatment

To butcher a Rick & Morty quote, "that just sounds like malpractice with extra steps".

Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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It’s funny because they didn’t actually defund them.

That would have saved taxpayer money, and allowing second order positive effects like that would prevent it from being an unmitigated disaster.

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