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I created an open-source Hardware Hacking Wiki – with tutorials for beginners

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Re: I created an open-source Hardware Hacking Wiki – with tutorials for beginners

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Post by btreecat »

0xEF wrote: post #86
cushychicken wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ham radio's decline is more than explainable as a cultural issue. The culture of every internet forum I've ever visited for it is absolutely deplorable. It seems like each one has a handful of really grouchy old gatekeepers who lie in wait to absolutely dunk on newcomers.

We agree, but I suppose my next question would be why? What happened to turn these guys (or ham radio culture at large) into grouchy old gatekeepers? I'm generalizing, of course, but they were like that when I arrived. I can't imagine the hobby was always like that, especially seeing some of the old literature from the 50's and 60's in the US, which was very encouraging of mentoring and sharing info. If it's still th…

Lead paint probably

Re: I created an open-source Hardware Hacking Wiki – with tutorials for beginners

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Post by hw-f3nter »

NoboruWataya wrote: post #48

Great idea, and it's definitely an area I am becoming more interested in as a hobbyist. Not to be that guy, but I always think it's a shame to see an open source community centre itself around a Discord server.

Thank you for your feedback! The Discord server serves as a platform for feedback and discussions about hardware hacking and HardBreak. Do you have any suggestions for alternative ways to offer these features?

Re: I created an open-source Hardware Hacking Wiki – with tutorials for beginners

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

themaninthedark wrote: post #23
nerdile wrote: post #12

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That's fine. It's just not open source. Don't call it open source if it's not. Definition: https://opensource.org/osd

>Free and open-source software (FOSS) or free/libre and open-source software (FLOSS) is openly shared source code that is licensed without any restrictions on usage, modification, or distribution. Confusion persists about this definition because the "free", also known as "libre", refers to the freedom of the product, not the price, expense, cost, or charge. For example, "being free to speak" is not the same as "free…

I think I'm about where you are in all this, I see NC (restrictions that activities are non-commercial; like CC-NC) as being 'open source'.

Sure, I can't take your work, cut you off, then sell that work as if it were my own... but without explicit encouragement to do that (*), honour should inhibit that.

(* I'm aware some licenses give explicit encouragement to commercially exploit -- I just don't think that is the boundary for open source)

Re: I created an open-source Hardware Hacking Wiki – with tutorials for beginners

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Post by palata »

SomeoneOnTheWeb wrote: post #14
nerdile wrote: post #12

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That's fine. It's just not open source. Don't call it open source if it's not. Definition: https://opensource.org/osd

Not everyone agrees with this definition. If the source is open to read, for me it's open source. The website you linked is an opinionated view on what open source is.

I think you misunderstand the debates happening around open source. They exist, but not for what you mean.

Re: I created an open-source Hardware Hacking Wiki – with tutorials for beginners

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

RobotToaster wrote: post #82
Joel_Mckay wrote: post #8

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Get a ham radio technician license, and you may develop an intuitive perspective on most electrical engineering concepts. i.e. the physics lab derivation of the core EE tool set is unnecessary if you understand what the models are describing. AI is slop in and slop out... and dangerous to students... =3 John Shive's Wave Machines is where every student should start: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DovunOxlY1k

At least in the UK you can't if you're a linux user, the software they use to spy on you while taking the test is windows only.

Well first off, the certificate comes with certain guarantees, and they can't give those guarantees if they can't prove you didn't cheat on the test. "spy on you" is absolutely correct, but a bad faith phrasing. That said, I did my AWS test at a test / exam center where there's isolated computers and cameras to validate that there was no cheating.

Re: I created an open-source Hardware Hacking Wiki – with tutorials for beginners

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Post by TeMPOraL »

0xEF wrote: post #83
TeMPOraL wrote: post #47

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> Get a ham radio technician license, and you may develop an intuitive perspective on most electrical engineering concepts. May. I managed to get one without developing much intuition for most EE concepts, unfortunately.

Were you also completely turned off by the community? I ask because I got into it about 15+ years ago for the purposes of helping with emergency comms and learning more about electronics, but found the community extremely hostile toward new comers that did not have money to burn on expensive gear. I ended up just giving up on it after a few years after investing in a bunch of Arduino stuff and learned far more about…

> Were you also completely turned off by the community?

I was never turned on :). I got my license partly because other people at our local Hackerspace were getting it, and partly because I imagined it'll be useful to have the knowledge and ability to build and legally operate my own radio hardware.

I never got the whole HAM talking over radio thing. Between the legal and cultural restrictions on the topics, and the expectations of not taking up the airwaves too much, I can't see how you could discuss anything interesting or worthwhile this way. It's no surprise that there seems to be nothing going on other than boring and obnoxious rag chewing - interesting conversations aren't allowed to occur in the first place.

I mean, the intersection between "non-commercial", "non-religious", "non-controversial/non-political", and "interesting to any HAM" is... basically just saying hello, weather, trash talk, and self-referential showing off.

Re: I created an open-source Hardware Hacking Wiki – with tutorials for beginners

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Post by TeMPOraL »

cushychicken wrote: post #85
0xEF wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Were you also completely turned off by the community? I ask because I got into it about 15+ years ago for the purposes of helping with emergency comms and learning more about electronics, but found the community extremely hostile toward new comers that did not have money to burn on expensive gear. I ended up just giving up on it after a few years after investing in a bunch of Arduino stuff and learned far more about…

Ham radio's decline is more than explainable as a cultural issue. The culture of every internet forum I've ever visited for it is absolutely deplorable. It seems like each one has a handful of really grouchy old gatekeepers who lie in wait to absolutely dunk on newcomers.

Maybe, but the problem I see with HAM is that no interesting discussion is allowed to happen in the first place. Between the legal rules, cultural rules, and the expectation to avoid niche topics that would bore out 90% of participants, there's hardly anything left to talk about.

Re: I created an open-source Hardware Hacking Wiki – with tutorials for beginners

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Post by TeMPOraL »

0xEF wrote: post #86
cushychicken wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ham radio's decline is more than explainable as a cultural issue. The culture of every internet forum I've ever visited for it is absolutely deplorable. It seems like each one has a handful of really grouchy old gatekeepers who lie in wait to absolutely dunk on newcomers.

We agree, but I suppose my next question would be why? What happened to turn these guys (or ham radio culture at large) into grouchy old gatekeepers? I'm generalizing, of course, but they were like that when I arrived. I can't imagine the hobby was always like that, especially seeing some of the old literature from the 50's and 60's in the US, which was very encouraging of mentoring and sharing info. If it's still th…

> What happened to turn these guys (or ham radio culture at large) into grouchy old gatekeepers? I'm generalizing, of course, but they were like that when I arrived.

My bet would be, the Internet. Mailing lists and then discussion boards (and then group IMs) allowed for deeper, topical conversations, with much lower barrier to entry, so everyone left the radio spectrum - everyone except those already used to spending time on it, and not interested in moving on to the new thing.

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