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'So immoral': gig economy workers forced to pay fee to receive their wages

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Screenshot of my (gig) app history, I guess arguably that can be faked I do food deliveries primarily since my car isn't accepted as a passenger car

How come your car isn't accepted as a passenger car? 2 door coupe or something? Delivery van?

Yeah doors/small and uncomfortable. I wish I could drive people (makes more) but at the same time I got my car for me. It's not a fancy car I wish, once I'm not in debt/have more money I want to graduate to cooler cars like a Lotus Exige.

As an aside, delivery can be fun as far as exploring a city and meeting random people (mostly the food workers) but it's a way to get out. I am destroying my car though putting like 1000 miles a week on it or more.

I think once I'm out of debt I won't drive/donate plasma anymore and just use my spare time for other things provided a have a good paying job like I do now.

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I complain about this at the other end of the cash flow cycle all the time: having to pay to pay. When a service, often my local municipality, charges a fee to pay a fee. VISA is arguably the biggest mafia organization in the world... 3% of all retain sales worldwide? Why? With the proliferation of 3rd party "payment processors", and the accompanying crimes commited, The Fed has instituted a central bank hosted insta…

The answer is transaction costs. Details at patio11:

https://www.bitsaboutmoney.com/archive/

Re: 'So immoral': gig economy workers forced to pay fee to receive their wages

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Not that it makes ok but these terms are basically no different and perhaps in some specific cases better (the cards had a myriad of fees for various transaction types) than the sort of scummy prepaid visa tied to a debit account crap that temp agencies have been loading people's pay onto for more than a decade now.

Re: 'So immoral': gig economy workers forced to pay fee to receive their wages

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Pretty much this. The ACA that said you had to offer health insurance to employees working over 30h / wk? Well, guess what, you're now only working 29.5. We should have just expanded medicare to cover everyone, but no, that'd give too much power to the workers.

> should have just expanded medicare to cover everyone Maybe the solution is to go piecemeal. We already have Medicaid for the poor--raise the limit on that. Expand Medicare to children and pregnant women. Et cetera . > that'd give too much power to the workers Medicare For All isn't popular [1]. There isn't a conspiracy, just people being cautious about a complicated and important topic. [1] https://news.gallup.com/…

I think if you put it to the American people as a referendum 'Hey, we're going to get rid of private insurance and put everyone on Medicare, here's the budget estimate from the CBO' I'm quite confident it would pass.

The sheer earned disdain I've seen expressed for health insurance providers recently makes me hope this is some sort of 'Abe Moment' for the US where even conservatives can acknowledge the majority of Americans are sickened by what our healthcare system has become.

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> should have just expanded medicare to cover everyone Maybe the solution is to go piecemeal. We already have Medicaid for the poor--raise the limit on that. Expand Medicare to children and pregnant women. Et cetera . > that'd give too much power to the workers Medicare For All isn't popular [1]. There isn't a conspiracy, just people being cautious about a complicated and important topic. [1] https://news.gallup.com/…

I think if you put it to the American people as a referendum 'Hey, we're going to get rid of private insurance and put everyone on Medicare, here's the budget estimate from the CBO' I'm quite confident it would pass. The sheer earned disdain I've seen expressed for health insurance providers recently makes me hope this is some sort of 'Abe Moment' for the US where even conservatives can acknowledge the majority of Am…

It'd almost certainly fail, because for many people (who haven't researched much) they consider "Medicare" the same as "crappy healthcare".

You're much better off boiling the frog by expanding the availability of medicare through various means until almost everyone has it as an option even if they're not using it.

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It's not the workers that get to decide surge pricing or wages. The employer decides that, and they keep the extra money for themselves.

Employers don’t keep the extra amount. If that were the case, the workers would have no motivation to work or to get the supply/demand in balance. I don’t get to “choose” how much I make. I just get to choose whether the amount of money I’m being offered per hour is worth my time.

The point is, you're not the one deciding the split. You don't think the majority of the revenue goes to you over the ride share company, do you?
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