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A three month review of kagi search and the orion web browser (2024)

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Re: A three month review of kagi search and the orion web browser (2024)

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Post by llamaimperative »

tessierashpool9 wrote: post #83
vindex10 wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The country has literally started the war and keeps killing people. Is it not enough to boycott any relationship with it, especially those from which it benefits financially?

as far as my observations go it's a little more complicated than russia started the war and apart from that life is not just about politics but also about mundane practicalities.

Only psychopath children: “I’m not bullying him, I’m just saying if he does anything I don’t want him to do I will bully him.”

Allegedly astute observers of European history: “Russia isn’t an aggressor, it just will aggress if its independent neighbors do anything Russia doesn’t like.”

Yeah bro that’s still called “starting a war.”

Re: A three month review of kagi search and the orion web browser (2024)

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Post by ulrikrasmussen »

forgotoldacc wrote: post #9

How well does Kagi work for places outside the US and non-English languages? I've only ever seen it mentioned by US users, so I have no clue how support is elsewhere. I briefly tried duckduckgo and its non-US/non-english search results seemed to be lacking (though this was about 2 years ago).

Works great in Danish

Re: A three month review of kagi search and the orion web browser (2024)

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Post by freehorse »

llamaimperative wrote: post #89
freehorse wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And I do not want my search experience and product I pay for be dictated by US foreign policy and relations in a given time. Why should a search engine company get involved in international relationship affairs?

“Wars of aggression are bad” is more of a moral/ethical position than a US foreign policy position.

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Re: A three month review of kagi search and the orion web browser (2024)

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Post by Octplane »

Kokouane wrote: post #2

Kagi is a tough pill to swallow. Their search is hands down the best around, there's no other way around it. That being said, $10/mo is also expensive. The workaround I found is using Kagi Ultimate. I get access to Claude (and I'm still able to attach files + access a dozen other LLMs) for $25/mo, so I was able to cancel Claude and keep Kagi and get the best of both worlds from either product. Side note: incredible t…

I'm discovering that Claude is included in Kagi Ultimate and this is also slightly blowing my mind... Probably going to do the switch.

The fact that it's expensive is true but for me largely compensated by the niceties of the service. I don't really like the fact that they use Yandex either but the other search engines are not really satisfying for me anymore.

I've used Kagi Pro for several months now and it's working great for my personal and professional needs. The only thing I'm missing is the shopping features but I can with that and switch back to Google when I'm looking to spend my money on physical goods...

Re: A three month review of kagi search and the orion web browser (2024)

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Post by llamaimperative »

freehorse wrote: post #93
llamaimperative wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“Wars of aggression are bad” is more of a moral/ethical position than a US foreign policy position.

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I’m not making some political argument here, I’m saying “boycott Russia due to its war of aggression against a neighbor” isn’t buying into “US foreign policy.” There are direct moral and ethical implications totally aside from any policy ones.

Make whatever moral calculus you want, just don’t play the goofball contrarian stuff and act like that’s derived from some high and mighty “I am independent from US foreign policy” lol

Re: A three month review of kagi search and the orion web browser (2024)

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Post by silver_silver »

throwaway290 wrote: post #82
unlikelymordant wrote: post #76

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I haven't found quoting helps much. I also feel like i shouldnt have to craft search queries with a lot of inurl or other tags or quoting. Kagi just seems to work better. Its worth 10$ a month to me to not have to worry about it, I use search engines a lot.

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You’re paying Google via the profile they have of you. Remember there’s no such thing as a free lunch while you’re feeling so superior

Re: A three month review of kagi search and the orion web browser (2024)

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Post by tessierashpool9 »

llamaimperative wrote: post #91
tessierashpool9 wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

as far as my observations go it's a little more complicated than russia started the war and apart from that life is not just about politics but also about mundane practicalities.

Only psychopath children: “I’m not bullying him, I’m just saying if he does anything I don’t want him to do I will bully him.” Allegedly astute observers of European history: “Russia isn’t an aggressor, it just will aggress if its independent neighbors do anything Russia doesn’t like.” Yeah bro that’s still called “starting a war.”

sure, but that is sadly how world politics works. if the US expands nato right to the border of russia then they retaliate. ukraine fought a war against their own citizens in the eastern half when they sympathized with opening up to russia - a majority there perceives themselves as russians. this is not just whataboutism - if you don't fight for resources then you'll have to buy them for a very high price. and ukraine is very rich in resources. as is greenland.

Re: A three month review of kagi search and the orion web browser (2024)

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Post by freehorse »

llamaimperative wrote: post #95
freehorse wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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I’m not making some political argument here, I’m saying “boycott Russia due to its war of aggression against a neighbor” isn’t buying into “US foreign policy.” There are direct moral and ethical implications totally aside from any policy ones. Make whatever moral calculus you want, just don’t play the goofball contrarian stuff and act like that’s derived from some high and mighty “I am independent from US foreign pol…

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Re: A three month review of kagi search and the orion web browser (2024)

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Post by llamaimperative »

tessierashpool9 wrote: post #97
llamaimperative wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Only psychopath children: “I’m not bullying him, I’m just saying if he does anything I don’t want him to do I will bully him.” Allegedly astute observers of European history: “Russia isn’t an aggressor, it just will aggress if its independent neighbors do anything Russia doesn’t like.” Yeah bro that’s still called “starting a war.”

sure, but that is sadly how world politics works. if the US expands nato right to the border of russia then they retaliate. ukraine fought a war against their own citizens in the eastern half when they sympathized with opening up to russia - a majority there perceives themselves as russians. this is not just whataboutism - if you don't fight for resources then you'll have to buy them for a very high price. and ukrain…

Don’t give yourself credit for understanding the “much more complicated” picture of the invasion than what other people are identifying.

You’re right here saying that it’s a resource grab. That’s what everyone else identifies it as too. You don’t have a more “complicated” picture or a more complete one, just one that’s devoid of a moral imperative.

Re: A three month review of kagi search and the orion web browser (2024)

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Post by llamaimperative »

freehorse wrote: post #98
llamaimperative wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m not making some political argument here, I’m saying “boycott Russia due to its war of aggression against a neighbor” isn’t buying into “US foreign policy.” There are direct moral and ethical implications totally aside from any policy ones. Make whatever moral calculus you want, just don’t play the goofball contrarian stuff and act like that’s derived from some high and mighty “I am independent from US foreign pol…

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If you think Russia is the only country getting boycotted for its military action, you live under a rock.

If you think all wars are of equal moral clarity, you are deeply confused.

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