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Re: Jimmy Carter has died

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Post by hylaride »

Salgat wrote: post #83
seanmcdirmid wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m really worried that we just elected a president who clearly fixates on short term gains rather than long term planning. Biden did not mess that up, even if he is a one term president like Carter. It is nice to have adults in control, even if that is increasingly politically untenable.

What's frustrating is that a few years ago a recession was predicted, and we avoided that. But no one seems to have even mentioned it during the election. Am I just misremembering this? At least in the tech sector, lots of layoffs seemed to be attributed to the coming downturn.

Also, the US is pretty much the only developed country growing at any meaningful rate (though deficit spending is probably a large cause of that and is arguably not sustainable at the current rate).

Biden was past his prime and it showed during the campaign, though.

Re: Jimmy Carter has died

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Post by christianqchung »

jfengel wrote: post #79
christianqchung wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

After Ted Kennedy killed a woman[1], he never should've tried to run for president. And I say that as a Cape Cod native. When he finally died in 2009 he was literally replaced in the Senate by a Republican, throwing the Democrats into chaos. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chappaquiddick_incident

That replacement didn't last long. The Democrats had an absolutely historic filibuster-proof majority. It's a bit odd that blue Massachusetts would choose a Republican, even a relatively moderate one, to replace Kennedy, but for the Senate as a whole it was something of a reversion to the mean. He did not win re-election, and was replaced by Elizabeth Warren. It did derail the Democratic agenda, but mostly because Re…

I actually think the Green New Deal (aka Inflation Reduction Act), CHIPS Act, and the extra $500B in infrastructure spending totalled together probably overtake the strategic importance of something like the ACA. But to each their own, most people disagree with that view.

Re: Jimmy Carter has died

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Post by kranke155 »

wahisurf wrote: post #81

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It was Clinton who made the WTO, GATT and NAFTA treaties that made manufacturing be sucked out of the US.

Carter was only following up on Nixon. It was Nixon-Kissinger who had the brilliant idea of splitting the communist bloc (an idea which I’d say likely helped shape the end of the Cold War - without China influencing Asia in cooperation, the Soviet threat was much reduced). Carter was only following up on a winning strategy.

But it was Clinton and his team who did the most work to wipe out the American industrial sector.

Re: Jimmy Carter has died

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Post by justin66 »

amazingamazing wrote: post #75

As a former president I wonder why he voted for Harris and went as far to tell others that he did so, but didn’t officially endorse. Seemed strange. A vote is tacit approval no? Was he against endorsements in general? He endorsed Mondale and Clinton iirc Regardless at least he wasn’t as divisive as 45. RIP.

Telling everyone you're going to vote for someone isn't an endorsement?

Re: Jimmy Carter has died

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Post by wumeow »

Salgat wrote: post #83
seanmcdirmid wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m really worried that we just elected a president who clearly fixates on short term gains rather than long term planning. Biden did not mess that up, even if he is a one term president like Carter. It is nice to have adults in control, even if that is increasingly politically untenable.

What's frustrating is that a few years ago a recession was predicted, and we avoided that. But no one seems to have even mentioned it during the election. Am I just misremembering this? At least in the tech sector, lots of layoffs seemed to be attributed to the coming downturn.

> But no one seems to have even mentioned it during the election

That’s because most Americans believe we were in a recession.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/may/22/poll...

Re: Jimmy Carter has died

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Post by bb88 »

His main achievement was and forever will be the Egypt/Israel peace agreement. This has lasted nearly 50 years, and the people who still have grievances will soon be dead in another few years.

Re: Jimmy Carter has died

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Post by justin66 »

linguae wrote: post #68
hylaride wrote: post #50

One could argue he set the stage for the 1980s economic boom by making short term sacrifices that cost him re-election. It was his administration that did market-oriented deregulation around airlines and trucking industries (meaning you didn't need to have a licence to ship goods across state lines and go through monopoly trucking companies to get your goods to market) as well as appointed Paul Volcker as Fed chair w…

For these reasons, Jimmy Carter is my third-favorite president of the 20th century, behind my favorite, Calvin Coolidge, and my second-favorite, Dwight Eisenhower. I am a very big fan of Paul Volcker and I’m glad Jimmy Carter nominated him as chair of the Fed. I wish Reagan kept Volcker as chair during Reagan’s second term.

Or nominated anyone other than Greenspan.

Re: Jimmy Carter has died

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Post by [deleted] »

kranke155 wrote: post #93
wahisurf wrote: post #81

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It was Clinton who made the WTO, GATT and NAFTA treaties that made manufacturing be sucked out of the US. Carter was only following up on Nixon. It was Nixon-Kissinger who had the brilliant idea of splitting the communist bloc (an idea which I’d say likely helped shape the end of the Cold War - without China influencing Asia in cooperation, the Soviet threat was much reduced). Carter was only following up on a winnin…

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Re: Jimmy Carter has died

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Post by rayiner »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #56
hylaride wrote: post #50

One could argue he set the stage for the 1980s economic boom by making short term sacrifices that cost him re-election. It was his administration that did market-oriented deregulation around airlines and trucking industries (meaning you didn't need to have a licence to ship goods across state lines and go through monopoly trucking companies to get your goods to market) as well as appointed Paul Volcker as Fed chair w…

I’m really worried that we just elected a president who clearly fixates on short term gains rather than long term planning. Biden did not mess that up, even if he is a one term president like Carter. It is nice to have adults in control, even if that is increasingly politically untenable.

Restricting immigration is a long term investment in America’s future. The golden age Americans remember from the mid 20th century is partly the result of the 1924 immigration act, which cut the foreign born population from almost 15% to under 5% by the 1960s.

As relevant here Carter proposed to make it unlawful to hire illegal immigrants and to impose penalties on companies that did so: https://library.cqpress.com/cqalmanac/document.php?id=cqal77...

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