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Re: An iPad Lover’s Take On The Nexus 7

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Post by betterth »

georgemcbay wrote: post #3

I actually think that post-ICS and especially with Jelly Bean that Android is a superior tablet OS to iOS, at least for me. There's basically no feature on iOS that I miss when I'm on Android, but a few (eg. custom keyboards, the overall intent system, etc) that I miss when I'm on iOS. iOS still kills Android for app availability though (especially when it comes to "tablet optimized" apps) and between that and iOS ec…

Android is inferior to iOS. Google Android could be on par with iOS, that's exciting and I can't wait to try the Nexus 7.

But it takes only one glance at what is released under the "Android" name for me to definitively state: Android is inferior to iOS.

But that's the point of Android. There is very, very little centralized quality control so the spectrum of quality goes all the way from the Nexus 7 down to a $99 POS Walgreens Android tablet.

Re: An iPad Lover’s Take On The Nexus 7

#92

Post by 2muchcoffeeman »

SquareWheel wrote: post #66
CamperBob2 wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably because Apple has sewn up all of the suppliers of high-quality 10" LCDs.

I was under the impression these screens are made in giant sheets and cut to size.

Yep. And all the vast majority of those sheets probably go to Apple...

Re: An iPad Lover’s Take On The Nexus 7

#93

Post by tonfa »

gurkendoktor wrote: post #72
tonfa wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But it will take a long while for that to trickle down to the user level If the Nexus 7 has the same success as the Kindle Fire (or better) then a large proportion of tablet users would be on JB.

…in the US (and maybe UK).

And France, and Germany, and ...

Re: An iPad Lover’s Take On The Nexus 7

#94

Post by bengillies »

betterth wrote: post #91
georgemcbay wrote: post #3

I actually think that post-ICS and especially with Jelly Bean that Android is a superior tablet OS to iOS, at least for me. There's basically no feature on iOS that I miss when I'm on Android, but a few (eg. custom keyboards, the overall intent system, etc) that I miss when I'm on iOS. iOS still kills Android for app availability though (especially when it comes to "tablet optimized" apps) and between that and iOS ec…

Android is inferior to iOS. Google Android could be on par with iOS, that's exciting and I can't wait to try the Nexus 7. But it takes only one glance at what is released under the "Android" name for me to definitively state: Android is inferior to iOS. But that's the point of Android. There is very, very little centralized quality control so the spectrum of quality goes all the way from the Nexus 7 down to a $99 POS…

I know I'm not supposed to feed trolls, but:

> Android is inferior to iOS. > > But that's the point of Android.

The point of Android is to be not as good as iOS? Really? That's the point of Android?

Do you make the claim that all cars are rubbish just because some companies make rubbish cars? No. Different cars are different. Obviously. So it is with Android devices.

If one Android device is on a par with the new iPad (or at least in the same ballpark according to MG Siegler) then please judge that device based solely on that device, not on other devices that are similar in OS name only (not even version).

If you're comparing iOS to the full spectrum of Android devices out there, then please compare the full spectrum of iOS devices out there as well, including the iPhone 3GS which is, in this day and age, a POS cheapo smartphone (compared to top of the range Android phones at least).

Re: An iPad Lover’s Take On The Nexus 7

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Post by bane »

jessriedel wrote: post #42
bane wrote: post #12

As much as a I love the idea of a 7 inch tablet, there's just one thing that I really really use my tablet for and that's reading PDFs and old scanned comic books (guilty pleasure). The size of a ~10" tablet is more or less perfect for this despite the difficulties in handling the size of the device while in bed vs. a 7".

Do you ever take hand-written notes on PDFs? This is my killer-app, and I'm desperate to find a tablet that does it well.

I do not. My best guess is one of the Note Series might work for you.

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13970_7-57385378-78/samsung-gal...

Re: An iPad Lover’s Take On The Nexus 7

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Post by msabalau »

Peaker wrote: post #61
w1ntermute wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've had a Transformer Prime for several months and have been enjoying the supposedly unobtainable Android tablet experience that everyone is waiting for. It runs stock ICS and has a 10.1" screen, and I actually wish it had a bit more of a bezel. I really don't understand why people are ignoring the Transformer Prime. And the Transformer Infinity is coming out tomorrow, with a 1920x1200 screen, fixes to the Transform…

I bought a Galaxy Nexus phone for my girlfriend so we wouldn't have to worry about updates anymore. It's still stuck on 4.0.1 with no update in sight...

I understand your eagerness. I had been mashing my update button for several days after the OTA update was announced. Evidently these things roll out over the course of weeks, which is not necessarily what you would expect if Windows or Apple o/s updates are your frame of reference.

I was able to "trick" my nexus into updating, by clearing the data from the Google Data Services Framework. That seems to work for some people. Unlocking and flashing is an option that some power users take--particularlly those with LTE phones where there is no OTA yet.

Re: An iPad Lover’s Take On The Nexus 7

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Post by gurkendoktor »

vibrunazo wrote: post #60
georgemcbay wrote: post #3

I actually think that post-ICS and especially with Jelly Bean that Android is a superior tablet OS to iOS, at least for me. There's basically no feature on iOS that I miss when I'm on Android, but a few (eg. custom keyboards, the overall intent system, etc) that I miss when I'm on iOS. iOS still kills Android for app availability though (especially when it comes to "tablet optimized" apps) and between that and iOS ec…

> iOS still kills Android for app availability though (especially when it comes to "tablet optimized" apps) I keep hearing that. But never seen it backed up. Based on exactly what does people say this? There's no efficient way to "count" Android tablet optimized apps. So how do you compare? Is it because there are some major apps that still works bad on Android tablets? If so, which ones? I remember when Honeycomb ju…

> could anyone please give me an objective argument

I think it is really subjective and about the "long tail" of apps. If I say that OmniFocus locks me into the Appleverse, someone else will mention an Android-exclusive app and we'll (objectively ;)) discuss for hours. Carcassonne and Anthill may not have worthy Android ports, but I'm probably missing out on Google's best-in-class maps.

The shopping experience may also have a lot to do with each platform's perception. The Play front page[1] looks absolutely uninviting to me. In iTunes or on the iPad, I usually scroll around and discover apps by topic. What do I do in the Play store if I know all the front page apps already (not hard)?

[1] for those of us who are abroad: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:https:/...

Re: An iPad Lover’s Take On The Nexus 7

#98

Post by adrianm »

bengillies wrote: post #94
betterth wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Android is inferior to iOS. Google Android could be on par with iOS, that's exciting and I can't wait to try the Nexus 7. But it takes only one glance at what is released under the "Android" name for me to definitively state: Android is inferior to iOS. But that's the point of Android. There is very, very little centralized quality control so the spectrum of quality goes all the way from the Nexus 7 down to a $99 POS…

I know I'm not supposed to feed trolls, but: > Android is inferior to iOS. > > But that's the point of Android. The point of Android is to be not as good as iOS? Really? That's the point of Android? Do you make the claim that all cars are rubbish just because some companies make rubbish cars? No. Different cars are different. Obviously. So it is with Android devices. If one Android device is on a par with the new iPa…

I actually don't think he's trolling, or at least not in the way you're interpreting.

I could be wrong, but I think he just clumsily phrased his response. In other words, he was stating that the point of Android is to be a decentralized operating system. Individual deployments are not controlled by any one corporation, so there can be a lot of hit and misses. Therefore, I don't think he is making a general claim that the 'point of Android to be inferior to iOS'.

Disclaimer: I'm not claiming anything written above is my own opinion, I'm just attempting to clarify a possible ambiguity.

Re: An iPad Lover’s Take On The Nexus 7

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Post by cageface »

lloeki wrote: post #88
cageface wrote: post #2

I have to give Siegler credit for actually posting an objective review of an Android device. No matter which side you favor in the tablet wars I think you have to agree that we're better off as hackers and consumers in a market with real competition. Rather than picking sides we should be happy that Apple and Google are pushing each other to improve their hardware and software at a rate we rarely see in consumer elec…

> we're better off as hackers and consumers in a market with real competition On the tablet market, the competition was decimated by the iPad, which was, objectively, overall better than any contender, and by a comfortable margin. Yes Android could potentially do stuff better than iOS, yes hardware could be non-crap, but what was going out of the door was not even in the same league at all. The only one that had real…

The trouble was that if you had the balls to tell this fact you were irrevocably dismissed as an Apple fanatic.

Trashing Android tablets hardly qualifies as an act of critical bravery. "There is only an iPad market" has been the mantra of opinion piece on the subject for as long as I've been reading them.

The truth is that we've had non-crap Android tablets for a while now but none good enough to seriously challenge the iPad.

Re: An iPad Lover’s Take On The Nexus 7

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Post by nicholassmith »

lloeki wrote: post #88
cageface wrote: post #2

I have to give Siegler credit for actually posting an objective review of an Android device. No matter which side you favor in the tablet wars I think you have to agree that we're better off as hackers and consumers in a market with real competition. Rather than picking sides we should be happy that Apple and Google are pushing each other to improve their hardware and software at a rate we rarely see in consumer elec…

> we're better off as hackers and consumers in a market with real competition On the tablet market, the competition was decimated by the iPad, which was, objectively, overall better than any contender, and by a comfortable margin. Yes Android could potentially do stuff better than iOS, yes hardware could be non-crap, but what was going out of the door was not even in the same league at all. The only one that had real…

If you mean the Nexus 7, then it is outside NA. You can buy one in the UK for delivery in August.
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