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Re: Xiaomi Home Integration for Home Assistant

#91

Post by alamortsubite »

jillyboel wrote: post #83
diggan wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think (some correct me) you can group most devices into the following categories: 1. Device requires internet for setup, and for usage 2. Device requires internet for setup, but after that don't need it anymore 3. Device can be fully setup without internet, and used without internet Personally I aim to be fully within 3 as much as I can, but some devices are really hard to find at a good price point that falls into…

Everything can fit in group 3, but manufacturers want to steal your data so they try to pretend otherwise.

You're giving them the benefit of the doubt here. In my experience, not only are they greedy, but they're also inept and lazy.

Re: Xiaomi Home Integration for Home Assistant

#92

Post by yurishimo »

holoduke wrote: post #82
microtonal wrote: post #68

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I completely agree with the grandparent. This is all avoided by using Zigbee or Z-Wave devices. All our smart lights are Hue. If they decide to stop supporting it, they can be controlled with the Samsung/Aeotec SmartThings Hub, Home Assistant, Zigbee2MQTT, or whatever you please. Similarly, our smart plugs are also Zigbee and we use a couple of Aeotec Z-Wave temperature/humidity sensors. Best of all, less worries abo…

With hue there is still potential risk of a lockin with their hue app. They allow it still, because their sales are not really good. But otherwise they might have restricted it.

Hue Bulbs use Zigbee. If hue stops supporting the hub or older devices, you can reset and pair them to anything.

The Hue bridge is IP based but can be controlled entirely over your local network. It’s a slim possibility of something breaking (the mobile app mostly) and then the bulbs are still fine.

Re: Xiaomi Home Integration for Home Assistant

#93

Post by yurishimo »

WaitWaitWha wrote: post #89

If you are thinking of deploying Home Assistant (HA), let me give you a few tips that I should have known when started. HA environment is vast. There are myriads of options, features, and functions. There are some gotchas that can be costly down the road. All of the following are "for now, as you start out": Do not gyrate over which version of HA to run. Run the HAOS loaded on RasPi, or a dedicated machine. You can m…

Newer ikea devices are standardizing on AAA because they can be recharged. The new motion sensors, door sensors, and buttons all use AAA batteries.

Re: Xiaomi Home Integration for Home Assistant

#94

Post by ahaucnx »

jillyboel wrote: post #83
diggan wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think (some correct me) you can group most devices into the following categories: 1. Device requires internet for setup, and for usage 2. Device requires internet for setup, but after that don't need it anymore 3. Device can be fully setup without internet, and used without internet Personally I aim to be fully within 3 as much as I can, but some devices are really hard to find at a good price point that falls into…

Everything can fit in group 3, but manufacturers want to steal your data so they try to pretend otherwise.

Not all manufacturers.

At AirGradient, all our air quality monitors can completely run local. Our official firmware is on GitHub and people could even flash their own (adjusted) version.

We believe this is how IoT devices should be and are very vocal about it. So I think there are a few manufacturers that think different.

Re: Xiaomi Home Integration for Home Assistant

#96

Post by pammf »

I love Home Assistant but I now have a pretty strict minimum effort rule after years of configuring integrations and building dashboards that I would forget about after 2 months:

I only do automations (no dashboards at all), and try to keep them as simple as possible. Once I feel I’m reaching diminishing returns territory, I stop.

Only use HA if I need to mix different vendors (e.g. turn on the hue lights if the tuya sensor switches to on) or if the vendor app/service has a limitation that doesn’t allow me to do what I want. For instance, I have some automations for my Mitsubishi airco units cause their app sucks. Otherwise I’ll just use the default app or service.

Only configure an integration if I’m going to use it in an automation; I have a bunch of integrations detected that I don’t configure.

I decided to follow these rules a couple of years back, and since then I could address all my needs with almost 0 maintenance.

Re: Xiaomi Home Integration for Home Assistant

#97

Post by X-Istence »

holoduke wrote: post #82
microtonal wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I completely agree with the grandparent. This is all avoided by using Zigbee or Z-Wave devices. All our smart lights are Hue. If they decide to stop supporting it, they can be controlled with the Samsung/Aeotec SmartThings Hub, Home Assistant, Zigbee2MQTT, or whatever you please. Similarly, our smart plugs are also Zigbee and we use a couple of Aeotec Z-Wave temperature/humidity sensors. Best of all, less worries abo…

With hue there is still potential risk of a lockin with their hue app. They allow it still, because their sales are not really good. But otherwise they might have restricted it.

Hue bulbs currently are stock standard Zigbee compatible light bulbs. You can pay them into ZHA/Z2M without any issues and control them without any Hue hub or app.

If Hue were to suddenly switch to something proprietary their existing bulbs will all continue to function without their app or hub.

Re: Xiaomi Home Integration for Home Assistant

#99

Post by duckworth »

yurishimo wrote: post #92
holoduke wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With hue there is still potential risk of a lockin with their hue app. They allow it still, because their sales are not really good. But otherwise they might have restricted it.

Hue Bulbs use Zigbee. If hue stops supporting the hub or older devices, you can reset and pair them to anything. The Hue bridge is IP based but can be controlled entirely over your local network. It’s a slim possibility of something breaking (the mobile app mostly) and then the bulbs are still fine.

Yeah, I ditched the Hue Hub last year and paired them all directly with Home Assistant via Zigbee

Re: Xiaomi Home Integration for Home Assistant

#100

Post by WaitWaitWha »

yurishimo wrote: post #93
WaitWaitWha wrote: post #89

If you are thinking of deploying Home Assistant (HA), let me give you a few tips that I should have known when started. HA environment is vast. There are myriads of options, features, and functions. There are some gotchas that can be costly down the road. All of the following are "for now, as you start out": Do not gyrate over which version of HA to run. Run the HAOS loaded on RasPi, or a dedicated machine. You can m…

Newer ikea devices are standardizing on AAA because they can be recharged. The new motion sensors, door sensors, and buttons all use AAA batteries.

Thanks for the update. The ones I have are the Remote Control N2 using AAA, and the motion sensors use CR2032.
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