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Re: ChatGPT Pro

#91

The price feels outrageous, but I think the unsaid truth of this is that they think o1 is good enough to replace employees. For example, if it's really as good at coding as they say, I could see this being a point where some people decide that a team of 5 devs with o1 pro can do the work of 6 or 7 devs without o1 pro.

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Re: ChatGPT Pro

#93
post #81

The price feels outrageous, but I think the unsaid truth of this is that they think o1 is good enough to replace employees. For example, if it's really as good at coding as they say, I could see this being a point where some people decide that a team of 5 devs with o1 pro can do the work of 6 or 7 devs without o1 pro.

Suppose an employee costs a business, say, $10k/mo; it's 50 subscriptions. Can giving access to the AI to, say, 40 employees improve their performance enough to avoid the need of hiring another employee? This does not sound outlandish to me, at least in certain industries.

That’s the wrong question. The only question is “is this price reflective of 10x performance over the competition?”. The answer is almost definitely no.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

#94

Let’s see if those folks saying they’ve doubled their productivity will pay.

I've not found value anywhere remotely close to this lol, but i'd buy it to experiment if they had a solid suite of tooling. Ie an LSP that offered real value, maybe a side-monitor assistant that helped me with the code in my IDE of choice, etc. At $200/m merely having a great AI (if it even is that) without insanely good tooling is pointless to me.

I don't know about you, but I get to solve algorithmic challenges relevant to my work approximately once per week to once per month. Most of my job consists of gluing together various pieces of tech that are mostly commodity.

For the latter, Claude is great, but for the former, my usage pattern would be poorly served by something that costs $200 and I get to use it maybe a dozen times a month.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

#95
post #64

The price feels outrageous, but I think the unsaid truth of this is that they think o1 is good enough to replace employees. For example, if it's really as good at coding as they say, I could see this being a point where some people decide that a team of 5 devs with o1 pro can do the work of 6 or 7 devs without o1 pro.

I am not so sure about "replace" atleast at my company we are always short staffed (mostly cause we cant find people fast enough given how long the whole interview cycle takes). It might actually free some people up to do more interviews.

That's a great point actually. Nearly everywhere (us included) is short-staffed (and by that I mean we don't have the bandwidth to build everything we want to build), so perhaps it's not a "reduce the team size" but rather a "reduce the level of deficit."

Re: ChatGPT Pro

#96
$200 per month means it must be good enough at your job to replicate and replace a meaningful fraction of your total work. Valid? For coding, probably. For other purposes I remain on the fence.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

#97
Not a lot of companies when announcing its most expensive product have the bravery to give 10 of them to help cure cancer. Well played OpenAI. Fully expect Apple now to give Peter Attia an iPhone 17 Pro so humanity can live forever.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

#98

Maybe they're just trying to get some money out of it while they can, as open models and other competition loom closer and closer behind...

Maybe. Gemini Exp 1121 is blowing my mind. Could be that OpenAI is seeing the context window disadvantage vs Google looming.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

#99
post #67

There are many use cases for which the price can go even higher. I look at recent interactions with people that were working at an interview mill: Multiple people in a boiler room interviewing for companies all day long, with a computer set up so that our audio was being piped to o1. They had a reasonable prompt to remove many chatbot-ism, and make it provide answers that seem people-like: We were 100% interviewing t…

So, wait a minute, when interviewing candidates, you're making them invest their valuable time talking to an AI interviewer, and not even disclosing to them that they aren't even talking to a real human? That seems highly unethical to me, yet not even slightly surprising. My question is, what variables are being optimized for here? It's certainly not about efficiently matching people with jobs, it seems to be more about increasing the number of interviews, which I'm sure benefits the people who get rewarded for the number of interviews, but seems like entirely the wrong metric.
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