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Breaking the 4Chan CAPTCHA

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Re: Breaking the 4Chan CAPTCHA

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As a large language model, I don’t have access to up to date weather information. Nah. But whatever you’re trying to imply, I think it would make more sense to claim that I am Hiroyuki Nishimura or something. For now, I’m going to prescribe you 6 months of abstinence from /pol/ and we’ll do another evaluation after that.

Partly irrelevant with a 30% chance of hallucinations.

Re: Breaking the 4Chan CAPTCHA

#92
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> is there any better way to do > it with a single developer for > a website that serves millions > of people a day? No, the other reason they're using this is to make it so annoying that you'll spend $20/yr to buy a 4chan pass to bypass it. If you're not making your free website annoying to drive revenue there's obvious ways to make it less annoying. E.g. keep the annoying captcha, but don't show one again for the l…

> keep the annoying captcha, but don't show one again for the lifetime of a cookie This is already being done, there's a cookie and heuristics in place that will give you an easier captcha or occasionally skip it entirely. But 4chan really does have a couple (and I truly mean a small amount of super super dedicated users) of bad actors who constantly spam and try to work around any roadblocks given to annoy the rest…

Is the anontalk guy still up to his shenanigans? It's admittedly been a very long time since I've used 4chan.

Re: Breaking the 4Chan CAPTCHA

#93

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They had a gigantic spam problem, captcha saved the site

then how does Reddit and Twitter work without such an obnoxious captcha? I find it hard to believe those sites get less spam. Or any other community.

First, they aren't anonymous. It's a lot more friction when you have to generate an account (which also requires a captcha).

Second, Twitter absolutely does make you perform captchas if they suspect you are a bot. I say this as someone who ran Twitter bots previously.

Re: Breaking the 4Chan CAPTCHA

#94

I wasn't a very active 4chan poster to begin with, but when they introduced this awful CAPTCHA, and later the 300s countdown before making the first post, I completely lost interest in using the website. Anonymous boards were supposed to be low-friction, but now 4chan is one of the most user-hostile social media platforms around. It takes a special kind of dedication to post there, which I seriously doubt helps the q…

They had a gigantic spam problem, captcha saved the site

- Obscure proprietary algorithm decides what you read

- Obscure CAPTCHA and other anti-spam features

- Pay to post

Choose one.

Re: Breaking the 4Chan CAPTCHA

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one of the biggest problems that 4chan has to combat is spam. unfortunately, at 4chan's scale, hcaptcha and recaptcha are not free. 4chan is not exactly a font of money, either. the only reason they turned to this awful homebrew captcha was because recaptcha stopped being free. is there any better way to do it with a single developer for a website that serves millions of people a day?

> is there any better way to do > it with a single developer for > a website that serves millions > of people a day? No, the other reason they're using this is to make it so annoying that you'll spend $20/yr to buy a 4chan pass to bypass it. If you're not making your free website annoying to drive revenue there's obvious ways to make it less annoying. E.g. keep the annoying captcha, but don't show one again for the l…

>No, the other reason they're using this is to make it so annoying that you'll spend $20/yr to buy a 4chan pass to bypass it.

I think this is a really cynical outlook, especially for a website that is not run as a modern tech-centric company. 4chan's roots are in that of the Old Internet, where it is a creative and messy and interesting place to be. why would they be banking solely on using a terrible captcha as a method to drive user subscriptions, when they have the option to run circus-tent ads? if making money was their sole purpose, why would they not kick the problematic and porn boards to the curb and ban the use of slurs to make room for more friendly advertisers? there are so many other avenues to increase profitability that most websites have taken which 4chan has staunchly refused to follow. why would they choose only the 4chan pass and ads as their only opportunity at making money?

Re: Breaking the 4Chan CAPTCHA

#97

Congratulations, now it will get upgraded and become more work for humans to solve, increasing the burden on every non-malicious user.

There are already loads of extensions and scripts out there that can solve these captchas with a great success rate.

Adding one more will degrade rather than improve that. Notwithstanding all the downvotes, the author's comment (just above) seems to endorse my argument.

I dislike the captcha a lot, but I wish people would invest the same effort in attacking spam that they do in defeating anti-spam techniques. Spam and similar kinds of abuse are the bane of the internet but most people seem to shrug it off but declaring that a 'hard problem' so they can ignore it.

Re: Breaking the 4Chan CAPTCHA

#98

I wasn't a very active 4chan poster to begin with, but when they introduced this awful CAPTCHA, and later the 300s countdown before making the first post, I completely lost interest in using the website. Anonymous boards were supposed to be low-friction, but now 4chan is one of the most user-hostile social media platforms around. It takes a special kind of dedication to post there, which I seriously doubt helps the q…

but now 4chan is one of the most user-hostile social media platforms around

Stay off /v/, /tv/, /pol/, and /a/ and you’ll have a pretty good time.

Re: Breaking the 4Chan CAPTCHA

#99

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They had a gigantic spam problem, captcha saved the site

then how does Reddit and Twitter work without such an obnoxious captcha? I find it hard to believe those sites get less spam. Or any other community.

By selling your data to advertisers.
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